[bitontheslide]

i agree with Beastie, i'm expecting a big spike mid january

[AnnieK]

Without doubt there will be an uptick come January. Locking everyone down in November and then releasing early December was always going to drive bigger footfall to shops etc to get the christmas shopping done. Hopefully, people will be sensible but I won't hold my breath

[arista]

[Cherie]

Fauci has now apologised for claiming the regulator in the UK has approved the vaccine too fast, US to approve next?

[Nicky91]

netherlands: https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/1...ome-to-dinner/

ministers, experts wrestle with christmas wishes, how many can come to dinner?

The government’s Outbreak Management Team will make its recommendations to the cabinet on Monday, ahead of Tuesday’s press conference update and amid mounting pressure from the hospitality industry to reopen.

In particular, officials are currently looking at the likely impact of opening restaurants for a few days on the infection rate. Unlike cafes and bars, they are not thought to have been a major cause of infection in the past.

However, epidemiologists are opposed to allowing cafes and bars to reopen, even for a short period. ‘It would be risky,’ OMT member Marion Koopmans told broadcaster NOS.

‘We will look at the public health institute analyses carefully but I don’t think we have much room to move. It would be a shame if we laid the basis for a third wave in December, just as the prospect of more testing and vaccinations are in sight.’

Dinner guests

Officials are also considering expanding the maximum number of guests from three to six during the Christmas break and allowing more youngsters to visit the cinema.

Extending the school holidays is also on the cards. Over 50 schools – 25 secondary and 28 primary – were closed for a period in November because of coronavirus outbreaks.

Meanwhile, dozens of Catholic churches have also cancelled their traditional midnight mass celebrations, because of fears that more than 30 people will show up, Trouw said on Friday.

Some churches are, however, planning online events instead.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Fauci has now apologised for claiming the regulator in the UK has approved the vaccine too fast, US to approve next?

Yes that was good of him

[Nicky91]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55175735

Italy bans christmas travel between regions

Italy is banning travel between its regions from 21 December to 6 January as part of strict coronavirus curbs over the Christmas holidays.

A curfew from 22:00 to 05:00 will also be in place.

Restaurants can open in some regions until 18:00 but only takeaways are allowed in other parts of the country. Ski slopes must close until 7 January.

It comes as Italy announced its highest daily Covid death toll since the pandemic started, with 993 fatalities.

"We cannot let down our guard," Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte told a news conference.

"We must eliminate the risk of a third wave which could arrive in January - and not less serious than the first and the second," he added.

There will be travel exceptions for work, medical reasons or emergencies.

On top of the regional travel bans, people will not be allowed to leave their home towns on Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year's Day.

The new curbs have been criticised in a joint statement by regional authorities, who say they were not consulted by the central government.

"The lack of discussion has made it impossible to balance the curbs with the needs of families," the statement said.

Attilio Fontana, governor of the northern Lombardy region, which has reported the most cases and deaths, called the new rules "crazy".

More than 58,000 people have lost their lives to Covid-19 in Italy.

Before Thursday, the country's previous record daily death toll was 969 on 27 March.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55175735

Italy bans christmas travel between regions

Italy is banning travel between its regions from 21 December to 6 January as part of strict coronavirus curbs over the Christmas holidays.

A curfew from 22:00 to 05:00 will also be in place.

Restaurants can open in some regions until 18:00 but only takeaways are allowed in other parts of the country. Ski slopes must close until 7 January.

It comes as Italy announced its highest daily Covid death toll since the pandemic started, with 993 fatalities.

"We cannot let down our guard," Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte told a news conference.

"We must eliminate the risk of a third wave which could arrive in January - and not less serious than the first and the second," he added.

There will be travel exceptions for work, medical reasons or emergencies.

On top of the regional travel bans, people will not be allowed to leave their home towns on Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year's Day.



More than 58,000 people have lost their lives to Covid-19 in Italy.

Before Thursday, the country's previous record daily death toll was 969 on 27 March.

I wish we were doing this instead of throwing petrol on the fire ...


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[arista]

[Italy bans christmas travel between regions]


Yes makes sense.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Fauci has now apologised for claiming the regulator in the UK has approved the vaccine too fast, US to approve next?

they are due to approve it on the 10th, and lets face it, its the same vaccine, everyone knows they are going to approve it, so his initial comment was ill advised

[arista]

Wales has a Rise of Covid-19

ITV1HDnews showed angry Pub Owners
who will close for 2 weeks.

Wales begin's Vaccines on Tuesday.


17th of Dec they will review it.

That Wales Circuit Breaker
did not help them.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

5,935 new cases

189 new hospitalisations (1,625 in total)

28 new ICU patients (473 in total)

58 new deaths (9,613 in total)

[arista]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

It’s just media krap ... many haven’t even stopped having parties ..

The responsible folk will abide by the rules and regulations but the ‘usual suspects’ will continue to do their own thing ..


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[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i agree with Beastie, i'm expecting a big spike mid january

A spike in deaths caused by the relaxed Christmas rules would most likely come in early to mid February, not mid January.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

A spike in deaths caused by the relaxed Christmas rules would most likely come in early to mid February, not mid January.

It’s difficult to say ... many are acting normally already and it’s only the 4th Dec.. .. Christmas shopping over the next two weeks could give a huge spike in infections .. ( deaths 28 days later according to the government stats )


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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

A spike in deaths caused by the relaxed Christmas rules would most likely come in early to mid February, not mid January.

im talking about a spike in infection

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's interesting, where did they say that? Yoknow this vaccine is potentially priceless and many will be willing to part with huge sums of money to be protected.

As we are the only country currently to have a vaccine what would the world's mega rich pay to be protected?



Can we be sure the doses the UK has are for us? If out of the several million we bought they are suggesting the amount available is 800,000 where have the rest gone?

Sky News just asking similar questions as we speak ...

They have just confirmed the 800,000 figure I quoted yesterday


They’re saying that it’s the first ‘blip’ that we have to contend with ... even finding enough people to administer the injections will be troublesome..

Also mentioned a possible shortage of glass viles as the whole world start to order / buy all the necessary equipment for vaccines at the same time !!


I also heard on the radio that organised crime will also play a part in this nightmare as some will try and steal the vaccines to sell on at inflated prices whilst others will be trying to sell ‘fake’ vaccines to all the desperate governments .


I’d imagine our government will be seen as easy pickings if they are willing to give Ł20 million to one guy for PPE !!

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[arista]

Today 504 have died

60,617 Total UK deaths

Patients in hospital
14,917

Patients on ventilation
1,261

16,298 Today have Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sky News just asking similar questions as we speak ...

They have just confirmed the 800,000 figure I quoted yesterday


They’re saying that it’s the first ‘blip’ that we have to contend with ... even finding enough people to administer the injections will be troublesome..

Also mentioned a possible shortage of glass viles as the whole world start to order / buy all the necessary equipment for vaccines at the same time !!


I also heard on the radio that organised crime will also play a part in this nightmare as some will try and steal the vaccines to sell on at inflated prices whilst others will be trying to sell ‘fake’ vaccines to all the desperate governments .


I’d imagine our government will be seen as easy pickings if they are willing to give Ł20 million to one guy for PPE !!

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As per there is always dispicable people waiting to pounce and they really don't care if it involves peoples lives whether it be traffiking , channel crossings , animals, drugs ~ well everything ~ its just all about money and greed ! it really is 'filthy lucre'

[Alf]

Covid restrictions are only for the little people.

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[Zizu]

You and I seem to have similar sleep patterns


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