[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Samm

You are white, of course you don’t know about racism, because you don’t receive it.

I've been called a "white bastard" before.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I've been called a "white bastard" before.

i was called white trash this very site

(this week so far i have been called a racist pig, a goblin(?) racist, troll, defender of murderers) and that is just the ones i can remember.


when people think they are so right and are in a majority they can be very cruel

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i was called white trash this very site

(this week so far i have been called a racist pig, a goblin(?) racist, troll, defender of murderers) and that is just the ones i can remember.


when people think they are so right and are in a majority they can be very cruel

a goblin....

well the truth must be told

[Cherie]

with regard to the gypsy thing, one of the most vocal on the BLM cause on here was horrific on a thread, think its the one where the policeman was killed?

I will need to go and find it

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...liceman+killed

[The Slim Reaper]

LT liking "dags" is new forum information.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I've been called a "white bastard" before.

That’s not racist, you may have been racially insulted but there’s a big difference. Because white people are not the minority. Racism is built on a hierarchy structure being called a “white bastard” hasn’t stopped you and won’t stop you from getting a job, being granted certain education, getting a promotion and generally being treated an an equal in society. White people can’t receive racism, because white people have been seen historically as the default race. I’m not even going to go into the amount of slave history, segregation and the incarceration of black people that makes it a even more valid standpoint that white people don’t experience racism. So please be educated on these issues.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

with regard to the gypsy thing, one of the most vocal on the BLM cause on here was horrific on a thread, think its the one where the policeman was killed?

I will need to go and find it

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...liceman+killed

To be fair to Adam, I've seen a lot of folks speak horrendously about romanies on this forum, including those who absolutely should know better. I also think it's positive Adams old opinions on Brexit/romanies etc, are crashing into the realities of the day.

Nothing wrong with changinging your mind, when the alternative is remaining small minded and insular.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Samm

That’s not racist, you may have been racially insulted but there’s a big difference. Because white people are not the minority. Racism is built on a hierarchy structure being called a “white bastard” hasn’t stopped you and won’t stop you from getting a job, being granted certain education, getting a promotion and generally being treated an an equal in society. White people can’t receive racism, because white people have been seen historically as the default race. I’m not even going to go into the amount of slave history, segregation and the incarceration of black people that makes it a even more valid standpoint that white people don’t experience racism. So please be educated on these issues.

he never said it was racist

he just said he was called a white bastard

only you said that

why?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Samm

That’s not racist, you may have been racially insulted but there’s a big difference. Because white people are not the minority. Racism is built on a hierarchy structure

No it's not. Racism is dislike of others based on race. The "power+prejudice" thing is just an academic construct, it's not the working definition in the real world.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Samm

That’s not racist, you may have been racially insulted but there’s a big difference. Because white people are not the minority. Racism is built on a hierarchy structure being called a “white bastard” hasn’t stopped you and won’t stop you from getting a job, being granted certain education, getting a promotion and generally being treated an an equal in society. White people can’t receive racism, because white people have been seen historically as the default race. I’m not even going to go into the amount of slave history, segregation and the incarceration of black people that makes it a even more valid standpoint that white people don’t experience racism. So please be educated on these issues.

Honestly I hate to be pedantic at a time like this but this comes up constantly in these situations. You're talking about institutional racism. White people cannot experience institutional racism in the west (and tend not to anywhere). I think its important that everyone fully understands and accepts that, AND understands that institutional racism is the problem that plagues the US and has lead to this civil unrest.

But ... Institutional racism and individual racism are not the same things, and it is possible for any race to experience casual racism. The difference of course, as you say, is that individual racism against white people is limited in scope and in most cases reactionary.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

To be fair to Adam, I've seen a lot of folks speak horrendously about romanies on this forum, including those who absolutely should know better. I also think it's positive Adams old opinions on Brexit/romanies etc, are crashing into the realities of the day.

Nothing wrong with changinging your mind, when the alternative is remaining small minded and insular.

I doubt he has changed his views on Irish travellers though, although I will welcome it if he has :

To my mind if you are anti racism, it should be in all forms, not just your own community

and before anyone starts I have a lot of time for Adam despite some of his views and always have had

[Gstar]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Why does it affect you? There's a whole planet out there were people murder each other. I don't get personally offended by white farmers being murdered in South Africa, because it's a different country.

What kind of a question is this? It’s racist police murdering my people...

And if you really want to get technical I have plenty of family in America and fear for them every time this happens, one of the many reasons why it affects me

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Gstar

What kind of a question is this? It’s racist police murdering my people...

And if you really want to get technical I have plenty of family in America and fear for them every time this happens, one of the many reasons why it affects me

Okay I didn't realise you had family in the USA, but to say all black people are "your people" is a bit weird, I don't feel that way about Scots or Brits in general

[Gstar]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Okay I didn't realise you had family in the USA, but to say all black people are "your people" is a bit weird, I don't feel that way about Scots or Brits in general

They’re my people because we share/shared similar struggles around the world.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Cherie

with regard to the gypsy thing, one of the most vocal on the BLM cause on here was horrific on a thread, think its the one where the policeman was killed?

I will need to go and find it

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...liceman+killed

Yea its 2 totally different scenarios, grow up

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Denver

Yea its 2 totally different scenarios, grow up

You were outrageously racist on that thread....looks like you pick and choose when it comes to racism not a good look

[Denver]

An your outrageous with your attempts to claim all lives matter

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The EU have no interest in trading with the USA, is that what you are saying.?

The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership ( TTIP) is a proposed trade agreement between the European Union and the United States, with the aim of promoting trade and multilateral economic growth. Aug 26 2019

As far as I can see TTIP stalled and was halted by trump last year.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Denver

An your outrageous with your attempts to claim all lives matter

Whose lives don't matter?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Whose lives don't matter?

How can all lives matter if black lives dont matter?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Denver

How can all lives matter if black lives dont matter?

Who has said they don't matter?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

As far as I can see TTIP stalled and was halted by trump last year.

That doesn't mean it wont be reignited now does it?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Who has said they don't matter?

The white race

[thesheriff443]

Some people’s views on racism is like saying I’m a vegetarian because I don’t eat meat on wensday’s.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Denver

The white race

No? Plenty of people say and know that black lives are important.