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Old 12-06-2020, 11:31 AM #26
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Is their anyone on this forum who is not on the far Left, who doesn't know what slavery was. Who doesn't know the suffering it caused. No, of course not.

I went to a fairly average inner-city comprehensive, I learned about the Empire and slavery and some of the unacceptable things this country did. Why then, do we have to have people legislating what we can and can't see?

People are having a fine old time pulling apart comedy and old films when actually, the thing that needs policing more is the Internet. And usually it's the same people who don't want us to see Gone With The Wind are the same people who don't want the Internet policed.

To me, it's all about company's competing with each other for who can do the most virtue signalling. Virtue signalling is rife
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comparing Roots and Gone with the wind

Roots has more realistic view on slavery, so it could be seen as educational, more historical

than a gone with the wind, who had shown the slaves in that to be happy to be slaves which is clearly a wrong view about slavery
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You don't really want to discuss anything with me. You just want to continue your weak smartarsery… it's quite boring.
If literally anyone else on the forum made the same post, I would reply the exact same way.
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To me, it's all about company's competing with each other for who can do the most virtue signalling. Virtue signalling is rife
Correct

It's about blame, marketing and money
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If literally anyone else on the forum made the same post, I would reply the exact same way.

In the ten years I've been here you've only posted to me in the last six months or so, and it's all been venom. I don't know you. You don't know me. Let's keep it that way.

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To me, it's all about company's competing with each other for who can do the most virtue signalling. Virtue signalling is rife
Oop that's a stereotype. .

It's not only the 'hard left' that know Hollywood depictions of sensitive subjects are glamorised.
As I've said on other threads I think the removal is a diversion, however it may be a catalyst for a generational shift change.

We are living through the early years of a new milenia... Change is good, the scales falling from eyes and seeing how different people have been and are treated is good.

As long as it is handled peacefully and sensitively I believe it's welcome and necessary.
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The film is widely available to buy and it always will be. It's not censorship or 'legislating what we can or cannot see' for a company to decide what to host on their platform. No one is banning Gone With The Wind.

Pointing that out is not an attack and it's not 'venomous'.

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Is their anyone on this forum who is not on the far Left,
Yes.
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comparing Roots and Gone with the wind

Roots has more realistic view on slavery, so it could be seen as educational, more historical

than a gone with the wind, who had shown the slaves in that to be happy to be slaves which is clearly a wrong view about slavery


Yes I’d agree ..

Incidentally some secondary/high schools do indeed show parts of the series Roots in History lessons


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In the ten years I've been here you've only posted to me in the last six months or so, and it's all been venom. I don't know you. You don't know me. Let's keep it that way.
No offense but you can be a little moody. I think you put me on your ignore list some years ago?
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To the original post...

It is strange (but true) that the best way to boost the popularity of movies that are over 50 years old is to ban them. GWTW is once again cool and popular among some sectors of the population.
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It is strange (but true) that the best way to boost the popularity of movies that are over 50 years old is to ban them. GWTW is once again cool and popular among some sectors of the population.
It's not been banned, it is literally available in loads of places.
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i watched the germans episode of faulty towers this morning
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I never understood it's popularity in the first place!, Movie is a long ass 4 hours long and it's most famous for the line "frankly my dear I don't give a damn" .

Which is funny as I don't give a damn about this movie and never have watched it . It looks boring as hell.
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I never understood it's popularity in the first place!, Movie is a long ass 5 hours long and it's most famous for the line "frankly my dear I don't give a damn" .

Which is funny as I don't give a damn about this movie and never have watched it . It looks boring as hell.
It having a famous catchphrase doesn't make it famous for the catchphrase.
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It having a famous catchphrase doesn't make it famous for the catchphrase.
Well the obvious racism is what it's known for aswell.But point I'm making is it's one of those movies where that's the only quote people know and it's the end of the movie.
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Well the obvious racism is what it's known for aswell.But point I'm making is it's one of those movies where that's the only quote people know and it's the end of the movie.
How would you know when you've never watched it.
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How would you know when you've never watched it.


i don't need to watch it
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Well if you're trying to have a discussion about the movie, you kind of need to have watched it or you sound daft.
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Well if you're trying to have a discussion about the movie, you kind of need to have watched it or you sound daft.
This isn't a strict book club review , and i can still give my views on not just the movie but the whole topic in general .
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This isn't a strict book club review , and i can still give my views on not just the movie but the whole topic in general .
Nobody said you couldn't do anything.
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Hope they are willing to burn thier fivers and other cash that have people they dont like printed on them
Personally I don't think anyone, no matter who they are or were, should be on banknotes.

Only the Monarch should be, no one else.
I'm fed up of the glorifying of others on things like this.

Reflect the Nation's of the UK.

Have a scene from England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales on, if there must be something else other than the Monarch.
Do away with any or all glorification of individuals for me.
Divisive or otherwise.

Just my view however.
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