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Old 17-06-2020, 03:18 PM #1
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Default If this country is so terrible why do so many risk their lives to get here?

Mass immigration, people 'sailing' the English Channel on Lilos using Spades as Oars in a desperate attempt to get here. Hiding in refrigerated trucks, cramped into small dangerous spaces. Parents giving every last penny so their child can be smuggled in. This is not to mention the mass legal immigration.

Im not patriotic, im an anti-royalist, i do not vote (never have) as i've never felt strongly enough either way. However, a lot of people go around saying how awful Britain is, how poorly run the country is, and of course it's far from perfect, we have many many flaws, but is it really that bad? Something is drawing in millions, from all walks of life.
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Because this country isnt a war zone?
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It's mainly kids with no job, no property, no stake in society and still get their main meal made by Thier mum

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Neither is France, neither is any European Country.
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Neither is France, neither is any European Country.
I'm not sure of this but I heard basically we give them a house, benefits and free health care.

Not sure you get that over in say Poland.
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Neither is France, neither is any European Country.
You do realise france, germany and many other european countries have high levels of immigration.

We and most of europe bombed or started conflict in their country in the first place. (The Middle East)
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You do realise france, germany and many other european countries have high levels of immigration.

We and most of europe bombed or started conflict in their country in the first place. (The Middle East)
Yes i do realise that, which is why i posed the question, why when already in France do thousands risk life and limb to cross the Channel?
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"If this country is so terrible why do so many risk their lives to get here?"

They get cash , a home, so much more than nasty France would give any of them.

We are working to get them sent back to France every day
it just a matter of paying France more Cash
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I'm not sure of this but I heard basically we give them a house, benefits and free health care.

Not sure you get that over in say Poland.

Yes we are too loving
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They get cash , a home, so much more than nasty France would give any of them.

We are working to get them sent back to France every day
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We're not 'too loving' but that doesn't change the fact we will house single mothers, those unable to work, offer a decent chance at an education and a chance to make a good life for yourself. Hence why i say, this country isn't at all as bad as some people like to make out.
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Any benefits we pay out to asylum seekers is basically chicken feed, when compared to the like of Rees-Mogg hiding his money from the tax man, taking millions out of the UK, and yet no one says he's a scrounger.
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Albania

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no

i can already think of 2 others whom got worse warzones than those

Somalia, Sudan

and not to forget another african country of corruption Chad


Iraq i agree, but then also Afghanistan, Syria



Albania is not a warzone
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Any benefits we pay out to asylum seekers is basically chicken feed, when compared to the like of Rees-Mogg hiding his money from the tax man, taking millions out of the UK, and yet no one says he's a scrounger.
You seem jealous as you always mention his business success?
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Neither is France, neither is any European Country.
Because it's Europe/Australia/North America and it's safer than their country.
In their eyes, it's better than where they come from. And really if they had the choice they would rather stay, and not risk their lives. But the economic and political aspects really don't give them a choice.
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Because it's Europe/Australia/North America and it's safer than their country.
In their eyes, it's better than where they come from. And really if they had the choice they would rather stay, and not risk their lives. But the economic and political aspects really don't give them a choice.
And you know this because?
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You seem jealous as you always mention his business success?
Yes, it's jealousy rather than fairness that's the issue
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Yes, it's jealousy rather than fairness that's the issue
You seem much more abreast of this than our thousands of tax investigation specialists, have you thought about telling them about your research?
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You seem much more abreast of this than our thousands of tax investigation specialists, have you thought about telling them about your research?
Unfortunately for british tax payers, it's actually one of the many benefits of brexit for the uber wealthy and disaster capitalists, that will allow our citizens to dodge tax, because we purposefully made sure we could duck out before EU tax regulations on hiding money apply to the people of blighty.

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Yes i do realise that, which is why i posed the question, why when already in France do thousands risk life and limb to cross the Channel?
They dont risk their lives these days, the French navy give them a nice escort.
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Because it's Europe/Australia/North America and it's safer than their country.
In their eyes, it's better than where they come from. And really if they had the choice they would rather stay, and not risk their lives. But the economic and political aspects really don't give them a choice.
Yes and you see this is my point, they can prosper here, whereas they can't in their own countries. Be that because of wars 'we start' or that their countries are so poorly run, that the rich become mega rich whilst they watch their own people die of thirst and build more lavish mansions. Here you have a fighting chance.
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Last time I looked the Vietnam war ended before I was ejaculated.
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