[James]

People are escaping repressive regimes, war or just looking for a better standard of living. The English language might favour coming here.

I actually think this country is a pretty good place to grow up.

[The Slim Reaper]

If the holocaust was happening today, I'd love to see what our anti-asylum seeker brigade would be saying.

Germany's a modern country, why are they coming here?

People are fleeing genocides, apartheid, war zones (often started by our empire and it's passion for redrawing maps) etc.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If the holocaust was happening today, I'd love to see what our anti-asylum seeker brigade would be saying.

Germany's a modern country, why are they coming here?

People are fleeing genocides, apartheid, war zones (often started by our empire and it's passion for redrawing maps) etc.

Many others are not though.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by James

People are escaping repressive regimes, war or just looking for a better standard of living. If they speak English it might also it might favour coming here.

I actually think this country is a pretty good place to grow up.

Agreed, this country really isn't that bad, it's actually rather good on the whole.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by James

People are escaping repressive regimes, war or just looking for a better standard of living. If they speak English it might also favour coming here.

I actually think this country is a pretty good place to grow up.

Yes and exactly why illegal immigration must be eradicated. The last time the govt did an audit was 2005

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

And you know this because?

It really doesn't take a genius to figure it out. You really can't say that regardless of what happens in Europe, North America or AU/NZ, it's less safe than third world countries or countries that are badly struggling.

People know this from talking with the immigrants themselves, personal stories (like my parents who left their respective countries to come to France), History as a whole, geopolitics etc

And let's not forget that most migration movements are mainly within countries of the same region.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If the holocaust was happening today, I'd love to see what our anti-asylum seeker brigade would be saying.

Germany's a modern country, why are they coming here?

People are fleeing genocides, apartheid, war zones (often started by our empire and it's passion for redrawing maps) etc.

If you are resorting to the Holocaust then it suggests you are struggling to justify your pov

[parmnion]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50194118


It looks like the worlds population sees britain like an
childs aunties bosom , one to sob into as a child when things are **** at home..

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Many others are not though.

Every social program is a bet on society. Firstly, wanting freedom and a better life is also a valid desire. Pretty sure if Essex (think that's where you live, but apologies if wrong) turned into a war zone, you wold also look to move, so being born where we were born is nothing more than an accident. I'm not really a fan of pulling up the ladder to prevent others from receiving the same opportunities that I had.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you are resorting to the Holocaust then it suggests you are struggling to justify your pov

Please learn to read, LT. It would make life so much easier for those of us who's posts you constantly misrepresent.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

It can all change

Fast.

Oddly enough that’s one of my ( many )concerns ..


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[parmnion]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Every social program is a bet on society. Firstly, wanting freedom and a better life is also a valid desire. Pretty sure if Essex (think that's where you live, but apologies if wrong) turned into a war zone, you wold also look to move, so being born where we were born is nothing more than an accident. I'm not really a fan of pulling up the ladder to prevent others from receiving the same opportunities that I had.

Let's say it's not a warzone!





What do I do then, ask the government for free travel to get to the place I want, or do I use the money I've obviously got already saved up.

Do I then gamble my life on unsafe travel to escape the non warzone of my native country so I can be a greedy bastard and make more money.

[parmnion]

What were the 39 dead in essex fleeing from?

[Kazanne]

This is a great country to live in on the whole, we are looked after and helped when needs must, we have the opportunity to make our lives good and good health facilities, we haven't got it all right but we are learning, The UK is the best imo and the only other country i want to live in is America.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Let's say it's not a warzone!





What do I do then, ask the government for free travel to get to the place I want, or do I use the money I've obviously got already saved up.

Do I then gamble my life on unsafe travel to escape the non warzone of my native country so I can be a greedy bastard and make more money.

You think these people are over crowding on boats and other risks, causing many of them to die, because they fancy a change of scenery?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Please learn to read, LT. It would make life so much easier for those of us who's posts you constantly misrepresent.

"If the holocaust was happening today, I'd love to see what our anti-asylum seeker brigade would be saying."

i did read and i was dissapointed that you used to holocaust in your extreme left argument

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You think these people are over crowding on boats and other risks, causing many of them to die, because they fancy a change of scenery?

Lol...the french navy escort the boats across now.

But let's talk refrigerated lorries and the vietnamese...what are the fleeing?

They obviously have cash.

[Shaun]

People really can't let valid criticisms of this country and its government go without jumping to blind patriotism and "at least we aren't Syria!!!!" rhetoric, and it's quite a childish response lmao

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Lol...the french navy escort the boats across now.

But let's talk refrigerated lorries and the vietnamese...what are the fleeing?

They obviously have cash.

Is there a point? When you can dismiss others as easily as that, then I can't give you the humanity to empathise.

lol.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"If the holocaust was happening today, I'd love to see what our anti-asylum seeker brigade would be saying."

i did read and i was dissapointed that you used to holocaust in your extreme left argument

So what exactly is the main point? The holocaust, or wondering aloud what our insular racists would say about helping others?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"If the holocaust was happening today, I'd love to see what our anti-asylum seeker brigade would be saying."

i did read and i was dissapointed that you used to holocaust in your extreme left argument

The extreme left always do that, they are even using blm as puppets cause they knew they dont have a hope in hell of winning an election..

It's an election year In america and this always happens in election year in america.

But I'm surprised at the labour mps stirring up racial hatred over here solely for the purpose of gaining the UK's bame communities votes..

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The extreme left always do that, they are even using blm as puppets cause they knew they dont have a hope in hell of winning an election..

It's an election year In america and this always happens in election year in america.

But I'm surprised at the labour mps stirring up racial hatred over here solely for the purpose of gaining the UK's bame communities votes..

and note slim said "anti-immigration" when we are talking about illegal immigration



just a poor and oft used tactic to besmirch and try and move the goalposts

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Is there a point? When you can dismiss others as easily as that, then I can't give you the humanity to empathise.

lol.

We have talked about refugees on here for years and years it's hardly dismissing all the others just because I want to discuss the vietnamese ones.

That's a very weak reply, one that directed my direct question round to me being unable to show empathy..

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Shaun

People really can't let valid criticisms of this country and its government go without jumping to blind patriotism and "at least we aren't Syria!!!!" rhetoric, and it's quite a childish response lmao

Maybe that's because the question in the op is about how nice a place gb is..why not celebrate that

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You think these people are over crowding on boats and other risks, causing many of them to die, because they fancy a change of scenery?

they are exploited and lied to about the journey that the boat is safe as is the route

the routes are run by criminal gangs

not the Stena line