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Old 23-06-2020, 10:22 PM #101
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No that's ridiculous, the attackers motive here was obviously that he's homophobic. Now to commit these kinds of terrorist attacks, being mentally unstable is a given. But it's why they commit these acts, the driving force. Islamic driven terrorist attacks are the number 1 cause of anything terror related in the UK. These people believe in a cause, and are more times than not encouraged and aided by perfectly stable people.
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Terror attack or homophobic hate crime? Awful creature either way.
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Old 23-06-2020, 10:25 PM #104
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I guess what happened at pulse wasn’t terrorism either lol!
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What was 'clownery' about my post? Interested to hear your take on it?
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I guess what happened at pulse wasn’t terrorism either lol!
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I’m being ironic, there’s comments here saying this might not be a terrorist attack which is absolutely... ridiculous
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I’m being ironic, there’s comments here saying this might not be a terrorist attack which is absolutely... ridiculous
Oh yeah, that is ridiculous.
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No that's ridiculous, the attackers motive here was obviously that he's homophobic. Now to commit these kinds of terrorist attacks, being mentally unstable is a given. But it's why they commit these acts, the driving force. Islamic driven terrorist attacks are the number 1 cause of anything terror related in the UK. These people believe in a cause, and are more times than not encouraged and aided by perfectly stable people.
But we don’t know if he attacked those people BECAUSE they were gay or just because they were the unlucky people who were in his path as usual people jump the gun before getting all the facts
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What was 'clownery' about my post? Interested to hear your take on it?
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But we don’t know if he attacked those people BECAUSE they were gay or just because they were the unlucky people who were in his path as usual people jump the gun before getting all the facts
Ok well if the motive is 100% confirmed that he did indeed kill these people because they were gay, regardless of colour that still makes him a terrorist. That's my point to the og post of yours i quoted.
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Ok well if the motive is 100% confirmed that he did indeed kill these people because they were gay, regardless of colour that still makes him a terrorist. That's my point to the og post of yours i quoted.
And if it isn’t? Then what?
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And if it isn’t? Then what?
then there is one more ignorant white person in this world who racially profiles a minority at every given opportunity!
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I think the point Smithy was making is that whenever a poc or a foreigner is the perpetrator in an incident like this, it doesn’t take long before the incidents are declared as terrorism, but when white people do things like this, they actually take their time to investigate before declaring what it was and we all know why that happens
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I think the point Smithy was making is that whenever a poc or a foreigner is the perpetrator in an incident like this, it doesn’t take long before the incidents are declared as terrorism, but when white people do things like this, they actually take their time to investigate before declaring what it was and we all know why that happens
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And even if it’s something that would usually be classed as terrorism it ends up being because they were mentally unstable
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And if it isn’t? Then what?
Then the Police need to investigate a motive, there is always a motive. Apparently he converted from Islam to Christianity a couple years back, and is known by Police for his threats of terrorism.
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then there is one more ignorant white person in this world who racially profiles a minority at every given opportunity!
It's been declared a terror attack though? What does his race have to do with it? When have i mentioned race?

Ignorant is right, it doesn't apply to me here though it applies to you.
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It's been declared a terror attack though? What does his race have to do with it? When have i mentioned race?

Ignorant is right, it doesn't apply to me here though it applies to you.
why are you still being silly?
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Then the Police need to investigate a motive, there is always a motive. Apparently he converted from Islam to Christianity a couple years back, and is known by Police for his threats of terrorism.
Gee you think they’d do that BEFORE they declare it’s a terroir attack huh!
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Gee you think they’d do that BEFORE they declare it’s a terroir attack huh!
The terrorist aspect is clear, the question is why did he do it. Was it in the name on Islam, Christianity, because he was homophobic?

Stabbing to death 3 people in a park, and only members of the public preventing him from killing more, is an act of terrorism.
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He didnt know them so how did he know they were gay?
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No that's ridiculous, the attackers motive here was obviously that he's homophobic. Now to commit these kinds of terrorist attacks, being mentally unstable is a given. But it's why they commit these acts, the driving force. Islamic driven terrorist attacks are the number 1 cause of anything terror related in the UK. These people believe in a cause, and are more times than not encouraged and aided by perfectly stable people.
Do you have a reason to believe he was an Islamic extremist and/ or a homophobe?
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He didnt know them so how did he know they were gay?
How do we know that?

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Do you have a reason to believe he was an Islamic extremist and/ or a homophobe?
Yes i do, he is on the UK's terrorist list, is known by police for threatening terrorism. And has openly stated in the past he will 'kill/fight' for IS.

As for homophobic, hands up i didn't read enough about the story, saying 'obviously' was wrong, and i take that back, Of course there is a chance, but we don;t know that yet.

But no matter how you look at this, it was an act of terrorism. His race really has nothing to do with it.

edit - if you read my post again, you'll see after my first statement i was generalising

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