[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If you're still supporting Boris, Trump, republicans or Tories after this has come to life then you can never pretend to care about the troops ever again because you obviously don't care if you value Trump and Boris' careers over soldiers' lives.

This country sells weapons around the world so they can be used to kill soldiers and civilians.

The only thing that would stop putin is a bullet in his head, he don’t give a flying xxxx for anyone.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Trump claims he wasnt briefed. Seems unlikely that they briefed the Brits but not the POTUS

[The Slim Reaper]

[GiRTh]

Sounds serious.

Congress can obtain the Presidents daily briefs so they can prove he knew.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

This country sells weapons around the world so they can be used to kill soldiers and civilians.

The only thing that would stop putin is a bullet in his head, he don’t give a flying xxxx for anyone.

That doesn't have any relevance to what I'm saying.

With this coming to light, with both Boris and Trump knowing of a threat to our troops yet choosing to do nothing, anyone who still supports them is paying pure lip service to the forces. These people can't cheer them on to make themselves look good and then support the people in charge who knew they had hits put out on them and did nothing.

Boris and Trump or the troops, people have to pick one or the other but not both.

[The Slim Reaper]

[GiRTh]

Youtube video

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

That doesn't have any relevance to what I'm saying.

With this coming to light, with both Boris and Trump knowing of a threat to our troops yet choosing to do nothing, anyone who still supports them is paying pure lip service to the forces. These people can't cheer them on to make themselves look good and then support the people in charge who knew they had hits put out on them and did nothing.

Boris and Trump or the troops, people have to pick one or the other but not both.

There is nothing they can do to protect American and uk soldiers.

Putin has shown many times he does not respect America and the uk

What do you think trump and boris can do to protect soldier, keep them at home.

You won’t stop people supporting who they choose by saying these people are not protecting our soldiers when they can’t protect them.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

There is nothing they can do to protect American and uk soldiers.

Putin has shown many times he does not respect America and the uk

What do you think trump and boris can do to protect soldier, keep them at home.

You won’t stop people supporting who they choose by saying these people are not protecting our soldiers when they can’t protect them.

You're missing the point, both Boris and Trump are content to do nothing. They aren't trying and failing to protect troops, they're letting Putin do what he will without reproach. It's ****ing traitorous behaviour.

You're more concerned with defending Boris and Trump's honour over the soldiers' lives because you consider harm towards them to be an inevitability. You can't pretend to care about soldiers when your priorities are primarily with Boris and Trump.

This is the kind of news in which you draw a line and decide what side of it you're on. You support the troops or you support the buffoons in charge that are ignoring threats to them.

[arista]

The German USA troops
are moving to Poland
who are willing to pay the proper rates
for Armed protection.

A Good Move by President Trump.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

The German USA troops
are moving to Poland
who are willing to pay the proper rates
for Armed protection.

A Good Move by President Trump.

A good move from Trump would be to have dealt with this threat when it was known months ago. Anything he does now is motivated by pure damage control. I hope he gets charged with treason when he leaves the white house in shame.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

A good move from Trump would be to have dealt with this threat when it was known months ago. Anything he does now is motivated by pure damage control. I hope he gets charged with treason when he leaves the white house in shame.

Is the election getting halted, though?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You're missing the point, both Boris and Trump are content to do nothing. They aren't trying and failing to protect troops, they're letting Putin do what he will without reproach. It's ****ing traitorous behaviour.

You're more concerned with defending Boris and Trump's honour over the soldiers' lives because you consider harm towards them to be an inevitability. You can't pretend to care about soldiers when your priorities are primarily with Boris and Trump.

This is the kind of news in which you draw a line and decide what side of it you're on. You support the troops or you support the buffoons in charge that are ignoring threats to them.

You are going down the route that I’m in trumps or boris’s friends group or that I think they are without fault, they are not.

But there is nothing they can do to stop putin, he is too big and too powerful and kills or throws in prison those that stand against him

Can you get be me an example of how they can stop soldiers getting killed with regards to putin’s order.

Uk government has a disgusting way of treating soldiers who risked their for this country, and that is something they should be held accountable for.

[parmnion]

Best thing to do is try and avoid world war 3.

[Kazanne]

I doubt very much they have ignored it ,sometimes the best way to deal with bullies IS to to ignore them and in this case Putin will not be getting the rise he wants, but I would bet behind the scenes things are in place, not everything is so black and white ,of course the media will lead you to a place they feel fit.

[Livia]

The Slim Reaper quoting from the Daily Mail. I've seen everything now.

[GiRTh]

Pelosi just said, no one told Trump cuz he'd have told Putin.

I think this story's not going to go away.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Slim Reaper quoting from the Daily Mail. I've seen everything now.

Actually Liv, because of your past, I would be interested in getting your take on this story.

[Kizzy]

So.. full circle back to the 80s then?
Tory with bad hair brown nosing right wing American president...Check
Recession...Check
3 million unemployed....Check
Cold war....Check

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You are going down the route that I’m in trumps or boris’s friends group or that I think they are without fault, they are not.

But there is nothing they can do to stop putin, he is too big and too powerful and kills or throws in prison those that stand against him

Can you get be me an example of how they can stop soldiers getting killed with regards to putin’s order.

Uk government has a disgusting way of treating soldiers who risked their for this country, and that is something they should be held accountable for.

So you think both the US and the UK should cower in fear in Putin and allow him, without reproach, to target our troops with bounties?

Both leaders should have acknowledged it and take a stand against it, expose and condemn it. There's plenty both could have done and they chose to ignore it. It's unforgivable and it's gross that people who have basically used the military as a political prop in order to grandstand about how caring and good they are, are now trying to act like the story has to be wrong, or that this is for the best to avoid World War 3 or whatever the excuses are.

People pretend to care about the military when they think it earns them brownie points but when it comes down to supporting Boris/Trump or supporting the troops, those people will choose the former every time.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So you think both the US and the UK should cower in fear in Putin and allow him, without reproach, to target our troops with bounties?

Both leaders should have acknowledged it and take a stand against it, expose and condemn it. There's plenty both could have done and they chose to ignore it. It's unforgivable and it's gross that people who have basically used the military as a political prop in order to grandstand about how caring and good they are, are now trying to act like the story has to be wrong, or that this is for the best to avoid World War 3 or whatever the excuses are.

People pretend to care about the military when they think it earns them brownie points but when it comes down to supporting Boris/Trump or supporting the troops, those people will choose the former every time.

This government sent soldiers to war zones without the proper protection, governments send soldiers to their deaths for political reasons and not for the safety of this country.

You could turn around and rightfully blame any leadership who sent soldiers to deaths needlessly.

Your anger is towards trump and boris and more so to those that support them.

For all our disagreements I will admit you do argue your point well but on this subject it’s more about calling out trump and boris’s supporters.

We don’t cower from Russia but it is run by a man that is ready to kill anyone that stands in his way.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

This government sent soldiers to war zones without the proper protection, governments send soldiers to their deaths for political reasons and not for the safety of this country.

You could turn around and rightfully blame any leadership who sent soldiers to deaths needlessly.

Your anger is towards trump and boris and more so to those that support them.

For all our disagreements I will admit you do argue your point well but on this subject it’s more about calling out trump and boris’s supporters.

We don’t cower from Russia but it is run by a man that is ready to kill anyone that stands in his way.

Of course it's about calling them out. These are people who claim to love and respect our forces yet they are silent when a threat to them is ignored by the people who should be doing something. It's treasonous behaviour by Trump and Boris and people are ignoring it because they support them. The hypocrisy is too much.

There's a difference between sending your troops out on missions and ignoring an active threat to them. You're comparing apples and oranges to downplay this and it cannot be downplayed.

Putin is only as strong as he is because our leadership is weak and Trump is a puppet. We as a nation should be demanding action but people are content to ignore this since they don't want to blame Boris for ****ing up and ignoring a massive threat.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Of course it's about calling them out. These are people who claim to love and respect our forces yet they are silent when a threat to them is ignored by the people who should be doing something. It's treasonous behaviour by Trump and Boris and people are ignoring it because they support them. The hypocrisy is too much.

There's a difference between sending your troops out on missions and ignoring an active threat to them. You're comparing apples and oranges to downplay this and it cannot be downplayed.

Putin is only as strong as he is because our leadership is weak and Trump is a puppet. We as a nation should be demanding action but people are content to ignore this since they don't want to blame Boris for ****ing up and ignoring a massive threat.

Putin is untouchable, not because of being weak, uk and America know there is nothing they can do to him.

You know there is nothing they can do on the political front and military action is out of the question .

They can only put a plan in place regarding our soldiers to try and minimise the risk.

[bitontheslide]

The taliban don't need a payment to kill a foreign soldier, they do it without thinking. Troops always expect anything so protect themselves accordingly, Paying someone a few bucks isn't going to change that.

The issue is that Trump conveniently chose not to be briefed on the matter