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Old 01-07-2020, 12:30 AM #51
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The boy was black and that was it. Would they have randomly attacked a white parent and their child if there was a white suspect in the area? No, they wouldn't.

These police officers were racist thugs, incompetent to boot. They attacked the first black people they saw, they didn't announce themselves and then they threatened to taze a child, all while these innocent people thought they were about to be mugged.

Ask yourself why you are jumping through hoops to defend the police in a clear cut case of brutality.

Utter Bollocks
the undercover cop
had info on a Black youth with a knife.

He was Fast to grab him at speed
from behind a tree
it's a shock for the innocent black lad,
and also a shock for the dad.
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Utter Bollocks
the undercover cop
had info on a Black youth with a knife.

He was Fast to grab him at speed
from behind a tree
it's a shock for the innocent black lad,
and also a shock for the dad.
He attacked a father and their son because they were black.
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He attacked a father and their son because they were black.

He did not attack the dad
he pulled the lad off the bike fast.
Because he had info a black youth with knife.

Making a big error.



I am talking about the Undercover cop, only.

Not the Police in Uniform.
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That's simple he was going Fast on his bike
ahead of his dad.


The Undercover cop assumed
it was the lad with a knife.

The Police owe that lad and dad
money. The only way to get it off the news
But how did they not see that his Dad was following him?

That's what I don't understand in this situation if The Police were acting on what was being described to them and not racism.
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But how did they not see that his Dad was following him?

That's what I don't understand in this situation if The Police were acting on what was being described to them and not racism.

He was peddling slower
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But they haven’t caught the criminal, all they’ve done is assault and threaten a child and his father because they were black, there’s no two sides to this
....I think that even if I were the parent of the person who was stabbed, I don’t think this would be something that should in any way be accepted and I would find it very upsetting...to cause such trauma on a child and on a family would only make the whole thing worse...and obviously I wouldn’t accept it if it was my partner and child cycling along the river and this happened...I can’t imagine how many cyclists there are in that type of surrounding in daylight hours...it wouldn’t be an ‘unusual sight’ to see a young cyclist ...so what happened cannot be felt acceptable without very specific reasoning beyond ‘a young black lad on a bike’...and atm it’s very difficult to see what that specific reasoning would be when it’s also being said that there was speed involved because it was a cycling event...this is why BLM is so important because none of us should accept a family having to experience something so terrifying when the only reasoning appears to be that they were cyclists and cycling in an area where cyclists will be a common sight...
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....I think that even if I were the parent of the person who was stabbed, I don’t think this would be something that should in any way be accepted and I would find it very upsetting...to cause such trauma on a child and on a family would only make the whole thing worse...and obviously I wouldn’t accept it if it was my partner and child cycling along the river and this happened...I can’t imagine how many cyclists there are in that type of surrounding in daylight hours...it wouldn’t be an ‘unusual sight’ to see a young cyclist ...so what happened cannot be felt acceptable without very specific reasoning beyond ‘a young black lad on a bike’...and atm it’s very difficult to see what that specific reasoning would be when it’s also being said that there was speed involved because it was a cycling event...this is why BLM is so important because none of us should accept a family having to experience something so terrifying when the only reasoning appears to be that they were cyclists and cycling in an area where cyclists will be a common sight...


The biggest tragedy is that someone was STABBED...seems to be completely igniored on here. God forbid the police trying to apprehend someone who answers the description of the attacker and trying to prevent someone else getting stabbed.
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He attacked a father and their son because they were black.

No they didnt...
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That's simple he was going Fast on his bike
ahead of his dad.


The Undercover cop assumed
it was the lad with a knife.

The Police owe that lad and dad
money. The only way to get it off the news

Im sure they will be compensated for their trauma. The poor victim that was stabbed wont be though.
You are batting your head against a brick wall Arista....some people will just want to see it as a racist attack with no sense of reason. im done
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The biggest tragedy is that someone was STABBED...seems to be completely igniored on here. God forbid the police trying to apprehend someone who answers the description of the attacker and trying to prevent someone else getting stabbed.
...that’s the thing though, Rusti...’answering the description of...’...was not something that was paid specific detail to and attention to because this child was not the person who committed the crime...and all he was doing was cycling in an area along a river, which would be a common cycling area I would say...it’s also being ignored, if you like...that with such an aggressive arrest of pulling a child from his cycle and threatening to taser him../...handcuffing both him and his parent...that ‘description of the attacker..’...should be fairly sound and it doesn’t appear to have because it was the wrong people...
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No they didnt...
They literally did
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Im sure they will be compensated for their trauma. The poor victim that was stabbed wont be though.
You are batting your head against a brick wall Arista....some people will just want to see it as a racist attack with no sense of reason. im done
And you can’t get past how police have a tough job so should be allowed to assault innocent black children on a whim
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No they didnt...
Yes they did, stop defending racism.
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He did not attack the dad
he pulled the lad off the bike fast.
Because he had info a black youth with knife.

Making a big error.



I am talking about the Undercover cop, only.

Not the Police in Uniform.
Choosing to pull a child off a bike and threatening them with a taser isn't a mistake, it's dangerous incompetence, racial profiling and racist attitudes. They were after a black suspect and decided any black person would do.

It's an open and shut case, racist attitudes and incompetence led to these officers threatening to harm a child for riding a bike. No one can defend this and they shouldn't.

Racism shouldn't be tolerated, least of all in the police force.
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Choosing to pull a child off a bike and threatening them with a taser isn't a mistake, it's dangerous incompetence, racial profiling and racist attitudes. They were after a black suspect and decided any black person would do.

It's an open and shut case, racist attitudes and incompetence led to these officers threatening to harm a child for riding a bike. No one can defend this and they shouldn't.

Racism shouldn't be tolerated, least of all in the police force.
Again that Undercover Cop had info on a Black
lad who had a knife.
He made a mistake, it was not that lad.
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Again that Undercover Cop had info on a Black
lad who had a knife.
He made a mistake, it was not that lad.
They chose to throw a child off a bike and then threaten him with a taser all while not announcing who they were leading the pair to think they were being mugged.

They were looking for a black suspect and they went for an innocent black child when they could have just taken a moment to assess the situation and know that he wasn't who they were looking for.

Going on about why they did it won't change the fact that they did it, they victimised a child and the reason why they did it doesn't justify their actions or the fact that it was the result of racism.
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Yes Dezzy he got the Wrong Lad
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Only people to blame for this happening is knife wielding youths.
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Only people to blame for this happening is knife wielding youths.
Yes they must take full responsibility.

I hope that father makes this clear to the son as well.
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And you can’t get past how police have a tough job so should be allowed to assault innocent black children on a whim

...on a whim ....grow up.
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Yes they did, stop defending racism.

Defending the police is not defending racism...but if you want to think it’s racism on this occasion just carry on.
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...on a whim ....grow up.
Yes on a whim, at worst it’s racism, at best it’s lazy policing, assaulting and traumatising a child because he’s black can’t be defended
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Defending the police is not defending racism...but if you want to think it’s racism on this occasion just carry on.
You are defending the racist actions of these police officers. It's pretty open and shut that this is a case of racial profiling and incompetence and you are choosing to defend both.
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Young people under 18 and vulnerable adults

The police must try to contact your parent, guardian or carer if you’re under 18 or a vulnerable adult.

They must also find an ‘appropriate adult’ to come to the station to help you and be present during questioning and searching. An appropriate adult can be:

your parent, guardian or carera social workeranother family member or friend aged 18 or overa volunteer aged 18 or over

The*National Appropriate Adult Networkprovides appropriate adult services in England and Wales.

Your rights when being questioned

The police may question you about the crime you’re suspected of - this will be recorded. You don’t have to answer the questions but there could be consequences if you don’t. The police must explain this to you by reading you the police caution:

“You do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”

https://www.gov.uk/arrested-your-rights
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