[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get what you're saying, it's just to me the Media does come across as more obsessed with Meghan, Harry, and Kate's behaviour than they are Andrew's.

All the media do is reflect the interest of the public

Nothing more

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

All the media do is reflect the interest of the public

Nothing more

This is not true.

[LeatherTrumpet]

It's n inconvenient truth, hard to accept i understand but true

[The Slim Reaper]

Even Goebbels understood the power of the media nearly a century ago.

[Ammi]

...the media convinces it’s readers that their opinions and judgements are their own as well and not influenced.....

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by jet

I do really worry about Harry. I just can’t see him settling in LA and being happy there. I think he did it to please Meghan because it was what she wanted.

Fffffff luckily he's a big boy who can make decisions about his own life without the input of laypeople who think they know him personally.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...the media convinces it’s readers that their opinions and judgements are their own as well and not influenced.....

It's no coincidence that brexit was preceded by years of scaremongering in rw rags.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

All the media do is reflect the interest of the public

Nothing more

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It' no coincidence that brexit was preceded by years of scaremongering in rw rags.

Indeed. Trumpets statement above would be more true IF we had a free, broad, independent press without vested interests. Unfortunately that's not what we have, we have a small collection of junk tabloids largely controlled by a small group of people who have clear conflicts of interest when it comes to guiding and nudging public opinion in certain directions.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It's no coincidence that brexit was preceded by years of scaremongering in rw rags.

...yeah in terms of any large political decision of a country, the media doesn’t reflect public opinion, it shapes it...public opinion is so often undecided, much more than we realise ..and it’s then moulded by the media...

[Ammi]

...well the tabloids, I would say...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Indeed. Trumpets statement above would be more true IF we had a free, broad, independent press without vested interests. Unfortunately that's not what we have, we have a small collection of junk tabloids largely controlled by a small group of people who have clear conflicts of interest when it comes to guiding and nudging public opinion in certain directions.

...or what he said, actually...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

But you dont know her either...you make your assumptions on what you read. Its your opinion based on those facts...and mine is mine. Its called debate..

Except he's not made any assumptions about a woman he doesn't know, funnily enough.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

I do really worry about Harry.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Except he's not made any assumptions about a woman he doesn't know, funnily enough.

Well he is because he is defending her...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well he is because he is defending her...

Doesn't everyone we don't know deserve the benefit of the doubt, unless there is evidence they're a wrong'un?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Fffffff luckily he's a big boy who can make decisions about his own life without the input of laypeople who think they know him personally.

I didn’t realize he would be hanging around here reading my input….oops.
Are you actually telling me I’m wrong to express my opinion on a debate forum where expressing opinions is a large part of its purpose? Are you going to do the same to everyone who has an opinion on a public figure they don’t know personally or is it just me?

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well he is because he is defending her...

All I’ve defended her against is crazy, unfounded assumptions on her character and what people think she is thinking...

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by jet

I didn’t realize he would be hanging around here reading my input….oops.

Are you actually telling me I’m wrong to express my opinion on a debate forum where expressing opinions is a large part of its purpose? Are you going to do the same to everyone who has an opinion on a public figure they don’t know personally or is it just me?

You weren't just expressing an opinion on the rights/wrongs of his specific actions or something he's said though, you were suggesting that you have a better idea about where he should settle and what would make him happy. That would be a huge leap even if it was about one of your own friends or family members... Suggesting that you have a better idea of what would make a complete stranger happier or more fulfilled than they do themself is really out there. But that's just MY opinion.

[AnnieK]

Let's face it, none of us know the state of any relationship that we are not involved in. All I see is a very tactile couple with a young child who seem to ber very much in love with each other. Wherever they live and whatever they do is up to them now, they have severed the ties of Royal Life and whatever Harry's father decides to pay for them is his business really. I personally don't follow them or any of the Royals in depth, Royal Correspondents only have the monarchy's interests at heart pretty much and the tabloids journos would sell their parents for a scoop. With all the rest of the awful goings on in the world, Harry and Meghan fall low on the list of things I would be getting invested in

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You weren't just expressing an opinion on the rights/wrongs of his specific actions or something he's said though, you were suggesting that you have a better idea about where he should settle and what would make him happy. That would be a huge leap even if it was about one of your own friends or family members... Suggesting that you have a better idea of what would make a complete stranger happier or more fulfilled than they do themself is really out there. But that's just MY opinion.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Doesn't everyone we don't know deserve the benefit of the doubt, unless there is evidence they're a wrong'un?

Of course they do....but we are equally entitled to make our judgement on what we believe. It works both ways and that was my point.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Of course they do....but we are equally entitled to make our judgement on what we believe. It works both ways and that was my point.

Belief is actually the worst way to arrive at a position, because of our inherent wishes and biases, but of course you're entitled to it.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

All I’ve defended her against is crazy, unfounded assumptions on her character and what people think she is thinking...

Yes and you assume she is perfect and done nothing wrong...well some people disagree because of what they have read and heard.
I mean there is so much to see....the fall out with William and Harry since being with her...the not wanting to tow the line with Royal protocol...the fall out with her family justified by only her mother being at the wedding. I mean she isnt completely innocent is she...

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Belief is actually the worst way to arrive at a position, because of our inherent wishes and biases, but of course you're entitled to it.

I will re word it then....we are entitled to make our judgement on what we read/hear and see.

[Liam-]

‘The fallout between Harry and William’
Two brothers arguing, they’re royals, not aliens, it happens

‘Not towing Royal lines’
Harry has never towed royal lines

Her mother was the only one at the wedding, her father had a heart attack and couldn’t fly and her sister seems like a trouble maker, it’s their decision who comes to their wedding.

The twisting that’s involved to make her out to be a bad person is astounding