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07-07-2020, 05:07 PM | #26 | |||
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I still like Amber and think she's an excellent actress but I fully believe they were abusive to each other and both did wrong 100% so shes silly making out she was some beaten down fragile ex
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07-07-2020, 05:15 PM | #27 | |||
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I wonder if people will be trying to get her movie roles cancelled, like they were with Depp? Is she gonna be in Aquaman 2?
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07-07-2020, 05:26 PM | #28 | ||
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Dan Wootton is the Perez of this decade. He's a successful man but at what cost?
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07-07-2020, 06:07 PM | #29 | ||
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I think part of the backlash against her is thinking "trans" is one group of people or one entity, when really she's speaking up about a lot of stuff that's grown up around trans rights (stemming from extreme activists) that is really quite dangerous if it's allowed to continue (and dangerous FOR trans people as well as cis people). Last edited by Marsh.; 07-07-2020 at 06:09 PM. |
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07-07-2020, 06:21 PM | #30 | |||
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All she said was the biological gender thing or am I missing something? . JK is unfairly getting stick over this . Last edited by GoldHeart; 07-07-2020 at 06:22 PM. |
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07-07-2020, 06:24 PM | #31 | |||
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Therein lies her problem, for a very talented author she is very bad at articulating whatever she thinks her points are, more often than not she uses sources that aren’t proven, that aren’t really supported by science and she doesn’t help herself when she uses opinions from anti-lgbt organisations to try and back her up, she loves to have her opinion, but when people question her, she decides to say it’s because she’s a woman, not because she’s a horror. Many people have reservations about self ID and that is fine, but she doesn’t say that, she lumps all Transgender under the same umbrella. She shows no intention of trying to converse with trans people to try and understand, that’s part of the problem, she doesn’t want a discussion, she wasn’t to lecture
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07-07-2020, 06:27 PM | #32 | ||
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And, in my opinion, allowing children to transition and take drugs to facilitate that is dangerous. But I won't turn the thread into the trans debate. Last edited by Marsh.; 07-07-2020 at 06:28 PM. |
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07-07-2020, 06:30 PM | #33 | |||
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Children aren’t allowed to transition, you have to be 18 to transition, puberty blockers that are given are completely reversible and gives questioning children time to come to terms with whatever they are, but they’re not handed out like candy like JK and the like seem to think they are
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07-07-2020, 06:32 PM | #34 | |||
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07-07-2020, 06:34 PM | #35 | ||
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There's wrong on both sides, but I personally have no time for the extreme activists who want their way or no way in regards to any issue and to hell with everyone else and their views or needs. |
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07-07-2020, 06:36 PM | #36 | |||
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It's still unclear as to how reversible they are, plus they come with other nasty side effects.
Potential immediate side effects of puberty blockers include hot flashes, swelling, headaches, and weight gain. Long-term side effects could possibly include bone density loss and subfertility, which is why using puberty blockers for more than four years is not recommended. According to the BBC, there is no clear data on how exactly puberty blockers might affect adolescent brain development and mental health. Obtaining informed consent from children — considered unfit to make mature, long term decisions — for a process that might affect them for their entire adult life is also a debate that hasn’t found any clear-cut answers. > https://theswaddle.com/what-are-puberty-blockers/ |
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07-07-2020, 06:44 PM | #37 | |||
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07-07-2020, 06:46 PM | #38 | |||
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But back to Johnny, I was ready a reporters tweets from the trial and it sounded like he got a battering by the Sun’s defence for being a historic drunk and drug taker, but he handled it well by all accounts and then Herd walked past him in the corridor and stared him out trying to intimidate him
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07-07-2020, 06:47 PM | #39 | |||
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****ing weirdo.
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07-07-2020, 06:50 PM | #40 | ||
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But I completely agree on any kind of militant activist, it destroys any actual progress for anyone. |
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07-07-2020, 06:53 PM | #41 | ||
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As for Herd, I saw the image of her walking into court linking the arms of her lawyer and was it a friend or sister or something? She's a performer. All I'll say is it doesn't say much for him that he was so easily duped by her if the stories of her pretending she had the same interest and hobbies as him to get to the point where he married her. A bloody mess of a relationship. It is nice to see his exes come out in support of him though. |
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07-07-2020, 09:52 PM | #42 | ||
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07-07-2020, 11:33 PM | #43 | |||
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07-07-2020, 11:35 PM | #44 | |||
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08-07-2020, 05:57 AM | #46 | |||
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Jessica Meuse was robbed.
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08-07-2020, 07:36 AM | #47 | |||
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Jessica Meuse was robbed.
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08-07-2020, 09:19 AM | #48 | |||
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This is how I feel. I definitely believe he hit her and she hit him also before anyone pulls me up for it
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08-07-2020, 12:01 PM | #49 | ||
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Given what we know now, I think it's wrong to paint both sides as equally wrong. She's a psychological abuser, she put him in a position where she basically said she could do what she wanted to him and he'd be the villain and she proved it right with her lies to the world.
He was likely broken down by her abuse and lashed out which isn't right but it doesn't make him an abuser either. If you were to flip the genders, would you say a woman is an abuser if she is abused, finally snaps and lashes out? According to the law, she wouldn't be considered so given that there was a murder charge that was overturned a year or two ago with a woman who, after years of abuse, killed her husband. She was found guilty, I believe but then the courts recognised the effects of things like psychological abuse and coercive control and overturned it and I believe they wrote it into law as a justifiable defense although I'd have to google that last bit. It's an extreme example, but, regardless of gender, if you abuse someone and they eventually snap, it doesn't make them an abuser for defending themselves. Last edited by Tom4784; 08-07-2020 at 12:19 PM. |
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08-07-2020, 12:17 PM | #50 | |||
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And his exes all defended him. Surely if he had a history of violence it would have come out already? She's a narcissistic sociopath and painted herself as the victim. When in fact she was the abuser.
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