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14-07-2020, 12:43 PM | #51 | |||
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I can understand it as most shop staff who are serving will be behind screens and they have to converse with customers all day and that will include people who rely on lip reading. Wearing a mask for eight hours throughout which you are almost always talking is a different matter to wearing one for five minutes popping into a shop. Notice all the politicians taking their masks off the moment they have to do an interview or answer a question. I'm sure shop staff are far more vigilant about hygiene and distancing than your average customer as well as they are much more at risk.
That said I expect the majority of shop staff will voluntarily wear them |
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14-07-2020, 12:49 PM | #52 | |||
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14-07-2020, 01:07 PM | #53 | |||
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14-07-2020, 01:10 PM | #54 | |||
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The government don't have a clue ,and they've gone back and forth . It's definitely down to our own common sense , despite the confusion . |
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14-07-2020, 01:37 PM | #55 | |||
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why? they are behind a screen for the most part, they are not like Health workers who get up close to people, if they choose to wear one that is not going to be an issue I guess.
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14-07-2020, 01:44 PM | #56 | ||
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They are there in the aisles where all the customers are going. Yes, those behind screens and behind counters, fair enough. However there's all other staff such as those mentioned above and cleaning staff too, who are among the customers. Last edited by joeysteele; 14-07-2020 at 01:44 PM. |
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14-07-2020, 01:53 PM | #57 | |||
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14-07-2020, 01:58 PM | #58 | ||
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14-07-2020, 02:07 PM | #59 | |||
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14-07-2020, 02:09 PM | #60 | |||
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I guarantee if they said do it tomorrow there would be some group moaning about lack of notice
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14-07-2020, 02:18 PM | #61 | ||
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It's a good move but I imagine it'll lead to a lot of **** for retail workers if they are expected to police it themselves.
It should have happened earlier. |
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14-07-2020, 02:22 PM | #62 | ||
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Every time I go in. There's always cleaners in the entrance too when I go. Anyway, it takes seconds to transmit this, so I'll always go for being safer than sorry. Last edited by joeysteele; 14-07-2020 at 02:25 PM. |
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14-07-2020, 02:25 PM | #63 | ||
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14-07-2020, 02:50 PM | #64 | ||
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To be frr, they need to give it time for word to get around (not everyone follows the updates closely) and for people to actually get a suitable covering. They can't just implement immediately and stop people from buying their dinner.
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14-07-2020, 03:29 PM | #65 | |||
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I might pick up a raw steak and shove it on if they stop me.
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15-07-2020, 08:39 AM | #66 | ||
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I still just can't understand the fuss.
Again I stress, no need for Police involvement unless someone gets violent. Really. At lockdown. Shop staff were ensuring trollies were wiped, that you went into the store in order. Not in groups. That all worked. A store near me had people queueing in very long queues, as did Banks, waiting to get in. That all worked. The smaller shops did the same, only letting up to 2 people in at any time. No real problems. Just do that same format again now except on one aim. No one admitted to shop or store who hasn't a facecovering, even just a scarf around their nose and mouth. Where on earth is the problem. If shops and stores were able to control how many even entered the store and had them queueing up outside for quite long periods. How on earth can it be that difficult to just have it adhered to, as to no mask or facecovering, then no entry. They could even have at the door scarfs or masks on sale outside, with a card payment set up for people to buy a scarf or mask before going in who hadn't them As for those deaf, well they can usually see and talk. Since staff won't have to wear masks, although some staff do I noticed yesterday for the first time. They can still lipread and answer back. What about sign language too. Really though, who'd object to someone deaf just easing the facecovering if absolutely necessary. I'm sorry however, anyone with serious health breathing problems, should be having their shopping done for them. They shouldn't be in these environments at this time anyway. Why do simple things need to be made so complicated. |
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15-07-2020, 08:51 AM | #67 | |||
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The big difference between then and now is that lockdown has ended. People don't like restrictions imposed upon them in a democracy. Lockdown was always only going to be effective for a few weeks and I predict that masks will be ignored more and more as confidence returns.
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15-07-2020, 09:00 AM | #68 | |||
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A shop down the road from me put up a post on Facebook saying they won’t be enforcing it but if you’re caught by an enforcement officer that’s on you. |
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15-07-2020, 09:03 AM | #69 | ||
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But you're right, it's about people not liking" another restriction"even though this one is barely restrictive. Just people feeling like powerless children, rebelling against what "mum and dad" are telling them they have to do. This is the first thing they've asked us to do that will have NO negative effect on our free-falling economy and this is the one people have decided is a step too far? Pff. Derp. |
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15-07-2020, 09:06 AM | #70 | |||
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It doesn't have to be a mask.
It can be a scarf of something similar.
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15-07-2020, 09:07 AM | #71 | |||
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and they were constantly confused, mainly because they didn't avail themselves of the information freely available but took their info off twatter.
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15-07-2020, 09:10 AM | #72 | |||
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15-07-2020, 09:17 AM | #73 | ||
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Even if 25% don't want to do it at first (which I think is an over-estimate) it'll be once. They'll go without their mask, be told they need a mask, kick off a bit, go away, and come back muttering under their masks while they buy their pot noodle. I can't see any more than a TINY percentage being so adamant about it that they just "don't go to shops any more". This is Britain. People like to talk a big talk and mouth off on Facebook but when it comes down to it, we're apathetic and compliant. They'll wear masks. |
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15-07-2020, 09:25 AM | #74 | |||
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I might be wrong on this and it might actually help if more people now feel comfortable going out shopping but it could go either way. Tbh if compliance is 75% I think that would be a reasonable success as it'd more than double the number currently wearing masks, I don't think this is a law where its absolutely imperative that its enforced to 100% compliance |
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15-07-2020, 09:32 AM | #75 | |||
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