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Old 17-07-2020, 04:30 PM #101
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Even her Lawyer said she is a threat to the UK
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Even her Lawyer said she is a threat to the UK
Amazing how people like that get another chance, yet decent folk get deported out this country who have worked hard and never had a criminal record.

Yet this lunatic is being trusted, what if she radicalises others and causes harm here .

As mentioned her kid deserves a chance but she's a terrorist sympathiser .
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Amazing how people like that get another chance, yet decent folk get deported out this country who have worked hard and never had a criminal record.

Yet this lunatic is being trusted, what if she radicalises others and causes harm here .

As mentioned her kid deserves a chance but she's a terrorist sympathiser .
She's allowed back to appeal the decision, and she will most likely be arrested whilst here. She isn't coming back to go on a girls weekend to Blackpool.
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She's allowed back to appeal the decision, and she will most likely be arrested whilst here. She isn't coming back to go on a girls weekend to Blackpool.
For ages they've been going back and forth with this decision of her coming back to the UK , so it wouldn't surprise me if she won the appeal.

How many times have dangerous people been free wondering these streets despite their history.
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For ages they've been going back and forth with this decision of her coming back to the UK , so it wouldn't surprise me if she won the appeal.

How many times have dangerous people been free wondering these streets despite their history.
People can only be punished for the crime they commit. Citizenship is a legal argument that is quite separate
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People can only be punished for the crime they commit. Citizenship is a legal argument that is quite separate
Why should she be granted citizenship , when people who have done nothing wrong get denied .

Whole thing seems backwards and unfair as usual.
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Why should she be granted citizenship , when people who have done nothing wrong get denied .

Whole thing seems backwards and unfair as usual.
she is not being granted citizenship, the argument is that the UK couldn't legally strip her of her citizenship because no-one can be left stateless
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Why should she be granted citizenship , when people who have done nothing wrong get denied .

Whole thing seems backwards and unfair as usual.
The case is about whether her citizenship should have been stripped in the first place, she was born here, she’s a British citizen
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Isn't she claiming to have been groomed? If she was it might help if she said where and by whom. In all of her interviews she seems pretty stupid, she has empty "cow eyes" and was probably raised to just be chattel. Have her parents spoke of her to the media at all? I wonder what they have to say about her running away.
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Isn't she claiming to have been groomed? If she was it might help if she said where and by whom. In all of her interviews she seems pretty stupid, she has empty "cow eyes" and was probably raised to just be chattel. Have her parents spoke of her to the media at all? I wonder what they have to say about her running away.
IIRC her parents were horrified about her running away to join actual ISIS, however some aspects of her family's beliefs are... a bit questionable. But I believe she was groomed online and her family weren't aware that she was planning to leave the UK.
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Why should she be granted citizenship , when people who have done nothing wrong get denied .

Whole thing seems backwards and unfair as usual.
She's a british citizen, she's not applying for citizenship.

If it was down to me, I'd say she made her choice but legally speaking, it's the UK's duty to take back it's citizens. We shouldn't expect the world to deal with out trash because we'd be raging if the situation was reversed.

A person has to be a citizen of somewhere, it's just a fact. If Begum's citizenship being stripped is proven to be illegal or simply against the rules then it must be reinstated and she would have to face imprisonment and hopefully rehabilitation here.
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IIRC her parents were horrified about her running away to join actual ISIS, however some aspects of her family's beliefs are... a bit questionable. But I believe she was groomed online and her family weren't aware that she was planning to leave the UK.
Oh okay, so it sounds like the islamic version of a family of white people who aren't actively hateful racist, but are certainly NIMBYists, whose kid joins the KKK
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