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Old 26-07-2020, 12:41 AM #1
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Patel has to be up there.
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I saw him speak in the late 80's and it changed my world view forever. Few politicians can and have had that kind of impact in the UK
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John Smith and Michael Heseltine.

One of each from the main parties.
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Wes is excellent, I sort of hoped he'd have run for Labour leader..
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Mo Mowlam.
Great lady.
Read a lot about her..
So sad her life and career were cut short by her brain tumour illness.
She worked really hard.
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I would love to see Priti Patel get her gig.

William Hague would have been nice for a first Gay PM.
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I'm sure this will surprise you, but I agree. I can't pretend that I agreed with everything his said but, what a statesman. One of the few politicians ever to have the courage of his convictions.
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Yes... another great politician, unfortunately shafted by her own party. They removed Mo Mowlam from the Northern Ireland Agreement and replaced her with........ Mandleson.
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Yes... another great politician, unfortunately shafted by her own party. They removed Mo Mowlam from the Northern Ireland Agreement and replaced her with........ Mandleson.
I actually shed tears when this happened.
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I'm sure this will surprise you, but I agree. I can't pretend that I agreed with everything his said but, what a statesman. One of the few politicians ever to have the courage of his convictions.
I am surprised given your statement on socialists in no 10, they smeared him like they did Corbyn maybe one day you'll have a change of heart about him too? Here's a reminder of the tactics they applied to both.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...nal-newspapers
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I am surprised given your statement on socialists in no 10, they smeared him like they did Corbyn maybe one day you'll have a change of heart about him too? Here's a reminder of the tactics they applied to both.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...nal-newspapers
They smeared him, but I'm sorry, I don't see his treatment as being anything like Corbyn's.

And I still believe this country will never elect a socialist.

That doesn't stop me admiring Tony Benn as a politician, as a writer and as a man.
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They smeared him, but I'm sorry, I don't see his treatment as being anything like Corbyn's.

And I still believe this country will never elect a socialist.

That doesn't stop me admiring Tony Benn as a politician, as a writer and as a man.
The vilification was unrelenting. When he stood for the deputy leadership in 1981, the Sun led the charge against him. And it found plenty of support from within the Labour party itself.

Benn's biographer, David Powell, described the campaign against Benn as "venomous" and quoted the Labour MP and Benn supporter, Michael Meacher, as saying:

"There was never less than a half-page of vitriol in the press every day, and the source was the right wing of the Labour party."

Really? ..I'd say the treatment was running almost parallel as highlighted here from that article.

I find Benn and Corbyn very similar in their views particularly the importance of truth and justice over grandstanding and spin.
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Well yes, I thought I would mention another massively principled man was vilified to the nth degree by his own party first
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The vilification was unrelenting. When he stood for the deputy leadership in 1981, the Sun led the charge against him. And it found plenty of support from within the Labour party itself.

Benn's biographer, David Powell, described the campaign against Benn as "venomous" and quoted the Labour MP and Benn supporter, Michael Meacher, as saying:

"There was never less than a half-page of vitriol in the press every day, and the source was the right wing of the Labour party."

Really? ..I'd say the treatment was running almost parallel as highlighted here from that article.

I find Benn and Corbyn very similar in their views particularly the importance of truth and justice over grandstanding and spin.

You seem to believe that if I admire Tony Benn, then by extension, I should admire Corbyn... and I don't. And I never will.
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Wee Nic. Get her into Westminster. Forget Scottish Indy; we'll annex England and rename the whole place Scotland, and you will all drink Irn Bru and eat Haggis and read The Broons and you'll gosh darn well have a good time doing it!
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Wee Nic. Get her into Westminster. Forget Scottish Indy; we'll annex England and rename the whole place Scotland, and you will all drink Irn Bru and eat Haggis and read The Broons and you'll gosh darn well have a good time doing it!
I've never been so happy to be moving to US.
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