[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the queen didn't give a toss about her own sisters happiness, so I don't think we can assume that she cares about anything else. She certainly showed no affection toward Diana ... at any time

Yes, Diana was only 19 and left floundering when she joined the family, who were heavily criticised for not treating her well. Which is why, by all accounts special efforts were made with Meghan to help her fit in and feel welcome, especially by the Queen. That was thrown back in her face...

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

Not you presuming to know what the Queen really feels....

But isn't that what you are doing by assuming she needs sympathy??

[arista]

She speaks, at last

[jet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

But isn't that what you are doing by assuming she needs sympathy??

I have never claimed otherwise, that was sarcasm.
I would assume she needs sympathy as a 93 yr old with a sick and frail husband and a son in disgrace having more trouble heaped on her at that time. I would have thought it is natural to assume that, but thats me.

[jet]

Originally Posted by arista

She speaks, at last

The attention grabber back again. Has one of the Royals got an important engagement today?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jet

Not you presuming to know what the Queen really feels....

...I didn’t presume anything...that’s why I said that she ‘apparently’ holds with great affection because it’s only what has been reported, so that isn’t a presumption ...I’m not sure why the hostility in your posts to me, Jet....

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, Diana was only 19 and left floundering when she joined the family, who were heavily criticised for not treating her well. Which is why, by all accounts special efforts were made with Meghan to help her fit in and feel welcome, especially by the Queen. That was thrown back in her face...

Diana was Harry's mother, I wouldn't blame him if he had some deep rooted resentment for the "family" from the way his mother was abandoned. Whether they went above and beyond to make Meghan welcome will never bring harry his mother back, nor make up for the pain he felt since then. He may have limited empathy now....I couldn't blame him for that.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Not you presuming to know what the Queen really feels....

Coming from the guy who thinks he knows the inner workings of Prince Harry's mind from reading Ok Magazine and the odd article in the Daily Mail.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Hopefully in time you will learn from your mistakes in giving your support to the wrong people.

I don't have a horse in this race, I just oppose irrational hatred and a lot of the hatred these two people get is irrational and steeped in bigotry.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by jet

The attention grabber back again. Has one of the Royals got an important engagement today?

indeed, i thought she wanted to live a more quiet life and yet here she appears again

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

indeed, i thought she wanted to live a more quiet life and yet here she appears again

indeed Nicky

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I didn’t presume anything...that’s why I said that she ‘apparently’ holds with great affection because it’s only what has been reported, so that isn’t a presumption ...I’m not sure why the hostility in your posts to me, Jet....

Not hostility really...and not particular to you at all. I would answer the same to anyone who replies to nearly every post I make with what I see as holier than thou responses. I apologise if I have offended you, and will try to do better.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

indeed Nicky

i mean i do not hate Meghan (not at all) but she literally does herself no favors here

and lol as a dutchman i know controversy in royal family, because of our current king Willem-Alexander, back in 2002 his wedding with Maxima Zorreguieta (yes daughter of a war criminal Jorge Zorreguieta) that public response towards her was also mainly negative at first, but after a while, and especially now public overall quite likes her with just a few moans left here and there in the media

my point is you can see the contrast with a Maxima or a Meghan, and a Maxima is from a very much more horrible, controversial family, Jorge Zorreguieta contributed to several genocides back in those times when argentina was in times of war, corruption

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i mean i do not hate Meghan (not at all) but she literally does herself no favors here

and lol as a dutchman i know controversy in royal family, because of our current king Willem-Alexander, back in 2002 his wedding with Maxima Zorreguieta (yes daughter of a war criminal Jorge Zorreguieta) that public response towards her was also mainly negative at first, but after a while, and especially now public overall quite likes her with just a few moans left here and there in the media

my point is you can see the contrast with a Maxima or a Meghan, and a Maxima is from a very much more horrible, controversial family, Jorge Zorreguieta contributed to several genocides back in those times when argentina was in times of war, corruption

good points Nicky, I dont think anyone hates her or Harry, its just they say one thing then do the exact opposite so their views hold very little credibility with me anyway

[jet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Diana was Harry's mother, I wouldn't blame him if he had some deep rooted resentment for the "family" from the way his mother was abandoned. Whether they went above and beyond to make Meghan welcome will never bring harry his mother back, nor make up for the pain he felt since then. He may have limited empathy now....I couldn't blame him for that.

It was heartbreaking for the boys. William lost his mother too, but he doesn't go on about it and certainly wouldn't talk about it to a load of bankers for big bucks, like Harry did.
In the past, Harry has said how his brother was his 'stay' and his 'saviour' in all the years after she died, now he is calling him a snob because he simply said to take more time to get to know Meghan. Whatever went on, the worse thing to come out of the marriage was the two brothers relationship, once so close, is now in tatters.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jet

Not hostility really...and not particular to you at all. I would answer the same to anyone who replies to nearly every post I make with what I see as holier than thou responses. I apologise if I have offended you, and will try to do better.

....there is nothing in my responses that are ‘holier than thou’ ...but then, you know that...

[Tom4784]

You can't really say you're not being aggressive and then accuse someone else of being holier-than-thou in the same breath.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....there is nothing in my responses that are ‘holier than thou’ ...but then, you know that...

I own how I interpreted your responses; how I felt, rightly or wrongly. If you can't accept my apology, I can do no more.