[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

He didn't say he wanted to use it against protesters, he said he wanted to protect the area from rioting. Maybe race doesn't come into it at all If the protesters had simply protested, at least three lives wouldn't have been lost, and people's buildings and business wouldn't have been destroyed. And also, the wannabe vigilantes would be standing around with nothing to do.

Usually the most simple explanation is the correct one, you have to jump through a lot of logical hoops for your version to work.

Again, you blame murdered victims for being murdered while minimalising the obvious racism and crimes of the murderer in question. Instead of looking for ways to victim blame, how about you hold murderers and vigilantes accountable for their own actions? It's certainly easier than the regular mental gymnastics you do to justify and minimalise the actions of murderers.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Usually the most simple explanation is the correct one, you have to jump through a lot of logical hoops for your version to work.

What logical hoops?

In the video LT shared in the other thread, he didn't say anything about race or BLM. He talked about the rioting. Not a single logic hoop needs to be jumped through to come to my conclusion. Occam's Razor would therefor suggest race didn't come into it.

[Tom4784]

You have to ignore a lot of common sense to make your version of events work, Oliver.

He was an extremist Trump Supporter that crossed state lines with an illegal gun and he knew what he was doing since he was looking at law enforcement as a career. Your version of events ignore a bunch of likelier options over a preferred view that doesn't make much sense considering the outcome.

The simple answer is often the correct one. He is a murderer that killed people because they were protesting poor treatment of black people, therefore, he is a racist murderer.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Graphic video's like that are not allowed. "What are we a bunch of Children"? The age limit is 13 for this forum so yes there may be members who are not adults. Would you like me to delete the thread?

I'd like you to put the link back in. We live in a world that ain't always sunshine and flowers. Would you delete a video the zapruder film in the Kennedy assassination? In the strictest technical sense I didn't post the video. I just presented a link to the video. "Banned.video" is just the name of the platform. It's owned and operated by Alex Jones.

As far as deleted the thread, I don't care either way. I'm just saying there is no purpose to it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

it wasnt graphic it was blurred out

you didnt see anything

[Liam-]

Alex Jones, why am I not surprised

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

I'd like you to put the link back in. We live in a world that ain't always sunshine and flowers. Would you delete a video the zapruder film in the Kennedy assassination? In the strictest technical sense I didn't post the video. I just presented a link to the video. "Banned.video" is just the name of the platform. It's owned and operated by Alex Jones.

As far as deleted the thread, I don't care either way. I'm just saying there is no purpose to it.

What I will do is discuss it with admin and see if they are OK with the video going back up.

[Tom4784]

Ah Alex Jones, the man who made targets out of grieving parents who had lost their children in an elementary school shooting by making up a conspiracy theory to make crazies harrass those poor people. He is a voice that must surely be believed.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You have to ignore a lot of common sense to make your version of events work, Oliver.

He was an extremist Trump Supporter that crossed state lines with an illegal gun and he knew what he was doing since he was looking at law enforcement as a career. Your version of events ignore a bunch of likelier options over a preferred view that doesn't make much sense considering the outcome.

The simple answer is often the correct one. He is a murderer that killed people because they were protesting poor treatment of black people, therefore, he is a racist murderer.

We'll just have to agree to disagree

As it is, all I see is a little snot who took vigilantism too far, because he wanted to protect an area from the riots. Until something comes to light which shows he wanted to kill people based on the amount of pigment in their skin, I'm gonna hold my horses. Remember riots and protests are different things, and there's no evidence he was against the latter.

[LeatherTrumpet]

[LeatherTrumpet]

The member of the “People’s Revolution Movement” who had his bicep blown off in Konesha two nights ago may have just helped Kyle Rittenhouse’s claim of self-defense. If you aren’t familar with the details, Gaige Grosskreutz charged with a pistol at Rittenhouse after he was being beaten on the ground by another man who subsequently shot and killed. New evidence also shows that someone fired at Rittenhouse first during the first altercation in which a third man was shot in the head. He was then chased down the street where he encountered Grosskreutz.

Now, a friend claims that Grosskreutz regrets not shooting and killing Rittenhouse, going so far as to say he wanted to empty “the entire mag into him.”

While this statement may or may not be admissible in court, it does bolster Rittenhouse’s claim that he rightfully feared for his life. It will also be something the police have to take into account during their investigation. Rittenhouse, according to the video, was not the aggressor in either location where shooting took place. In the first instance, a man charged him, throwing something at him while clearly posing a threat. That was the first discharge of the weapon. The mob then chased him down the street. After stumbling, he was hit with a skateboard and discharged his weapon several times again, killing the man trying to assault him. It was then that Grosskreutz was videoed running at Rittenhouse with a pistol in his hand. The final shot was fired at that point, blowing Grosskreutz’s bicep up in what has now become a viral video.

At the end of the day, I see noway that a 1st degree murder charge stands here. Every piece of evidence says this was self-defense. And while it may be correct to say this 17 year old shouldn’t have been there armed with a gun, the right stop others from harming or killing you doesn’t go out the window over concerns of vanity. Regardless of why he was there, Rittenhouse had a right to shoot those attacking him. Whether this will serve as a lesson for future “protesters,” we’ll see. It’s a shame something like this had to happen for people to realize how dangerous these riots are getting. This entire ordeal is a gross failure of state and local officials who had the power to prevent the carnage and destruction. If police aren’t allowed to do their jobs and anarchy reigns, people are going to get killed. It was inevitable and it will happen again unless things change.

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/202...-teen-shooter/

[Liam-]

The guy who had his arm blown off was the 3rd person the lunatic shot and Americans have the right to shoot people if they’re being shot at, so yes, I’m not surprised he wished he shot him after he shot someone else and before he got his arm blown off, seems quite rational thinking actually, if he had shot the murderer, he wouldn’t have been shot himself, that’s sensible

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The guy who had his arm blown off was the 3rd person the lunatic shot and Americans have the right to shoot people if they’re being shot at, so yes, I’m not surprised he wished he shot him after he shot someone else and before he got his arm blown off, seems quite rational thinking actually, if he had shot the murderer, he wouldn’t have been shot himself, that’s sensible

From what we know so far he charged at the young boy pointing a handgun at him

so he is lucky to get away with a minor wound

[Liam-]

He was trying to disarm a murderer using his protected liberties, he was a very Good Samaritan trying to help keep his fellow citizens safe and paid the price at the hands of a murderous, radicalised militant, he’s very lucky to have escaped alive, bless him

He showed great restraint in the face of an imminent threat to his life, he should be rewarded for his bravery

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by liam-

he was trying to disarm a murderer using his protected liberties, he was a very good samaritan trying to help keep his fellow citizens safe and paid the price at the hands of a murderous, radicalised militant, he’s very lucky to have escaped alive, bless him

he is a rioter and a member of a communist organisation

[Liam-]

He’s a hero who put his life on the line to try and stop a vicious murder from taking any more lives, if a cop did that they’d get some sort of medal, he should be honoured somehow

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He’s a hero who put his life on the line to try and stop a vicious murder from taking any more lives, if a cop did that they’d get some sort of medal, he should be honoured somehow

too far

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

doesn't Lin Wood have a history of being racist?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He’s a hero who put his life on the line to try and stop a vicious murder from taking any more lives, if a cop did that they’d get some sort of medal, he should be honoured somehow

here you can watch the video of your "Hero" charging WITH A HANDGUN at a 17 year old boy who has been knocked on the floor

The young boy defends himself as best he can



self- defense

end of

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wounded-1.html

[Denver]

Its nit self defense if you went with the intention to kill

[Liam-]

A 17 year old double murderer LT, he was using is liberties to attempt to disarm a double murderer, it’s not self defence to kill someone trying to disarm you after murdering two people

End of

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

here you can watch the video of your "Hero" charging WITH A HANDGUN at a 17 year old boy who has been knocked on the floor

The young boy defends himself as best he can



self- defense

end of

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wounded-1.html

no, it is not self-defense

[Liam-]

When 12 year old are shot while playing with toy guns, they’re seen as criminals, when 17 year olds murder and injure multiple people with actual guns, they’re seen as kids, enough of the bull**** honestly.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

no, it is not self-defense

its the very definition

he was being attacked by a murderous criminal mob

[Liam-]

Except, they’ve never killed anybody, try again