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arista · 10-09-2020, 04:46 PM

https://twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/s...08536553017349

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Canc...ertical=trends

Due to kids being used as sex objects.
11 year old girls.

Swan · 10-09-2020, 05:00 PM

Hopefully it results in them dropping the show.

Oliver_W · 10-09-2020, 05:01 PM

wtf, what creepo approved something like that

I thought Weinstein wasn't making films anymore...

arista · 10-09-2020, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan

Hopefully it results in them dropping the show.

Yes I am amazed Netflix is ignoring the Twitter rage,

Ammi · 10-09-2020, 05:15 PM

...this is just part of one article so I’ll post the link...

It's about what it means to be an adolescent girl in the age of TikTok and Instagram, where 'likes' have become the currency of self-esteem and keeping kids away from anything on the Internet is near impossible.

The film is told from the perspective of 11-year-old Amy who, like Doucouré, is the daughter of Muslim Senegalese immigrants growing up in northeast Paris.

Amy is unimpressed by the traditional path for women laid out by the matriarchs in her family.

As her strict Grand-Aunt tries to groom her to become a wife and mother, Amy watches her own mom struggle to hide tears when she gets a call from her husband in Senegal. As is tradition for many men there, he's taken a second wife.

To escape the drama playing out at home, Amy befriends a group of popular girls at school who have formed a dance troop called 'Les Mignonnes' or 'the Cuties.'

Amy spends hours nailing down choreography to provocative music videos so she can impress her new friends.

Filmmaker Doucouré says social media adds a layer of complexity to what it means to be an adolescent in 2020.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/06/90975...=1599757858637

..it seems to be engaging interest and there are some pretty good reviews...I’d have to try to watch it, Arista...to be able to comment on the Twitter cancel campaign...

Toy Soldier · 10-09-2020, 05:16 PM

It's not a Neflix production, it's a French film that won awards at some film festival and Netflix bought the rights to it for international screening. I do think that was the wrong decision. I don't know that whatever "artistic merit" it has is worth the depictions of actual children in it and, either way, Netflix is far too mainstream a platform for it to be on.

Ammi · 10-09-2020, 05:18 PM

...the Independent review that properly explains the movie ...

Netflix’s Cuties is too intelligent and moving to be marred by one bad-taste poster...

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...e-b405032.html

Ammi · 10-09-2020, 05:20 PM

...it doesn’t seem to sexualise, so much as show how children can be sexualised in this digital age of social media etc...?...

The Slim Reaper · 10-09-2020, 05:21 PM

If it has something to say about the sexualisation of young girls, then that would make it valid imo. If it's just about kids twerking, then it is completely without merit, but I really knew nothing about it until this thread, so I can't really make a judgement.

Ammi · 10-09-2020, 05:21 PM

...’cancel culture’ is becoming a real problem if it fully know what it’s cancelling...

Toy Soldier · 10-09-2020, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...this is just part of one article so I’ll post the link...

It's about what it means to be an adolescent girl in the age of TikTok and Instagram, where 'likes' have become the currency of self-esteem and keeping kids away from anything on the Internet is near impossible.

The film is told from the perspective of 11-year-old Amy who, like Doucouré, is the daughter of Muslim Senegalese immigrants growing up in northeast Paris.

Amy is unimpressed by the traditional path for women laid out by the matriarchs in her family.

As her strict Grand-Aunt tries to groom her to become a wife and mother, Amy watches her own mom struggle to hide tears when she gets a call from her husband in Senegal. As is tradition for many men there, he's taken a second wife.

To escape the drama playing out at home, Amy befriends a group of popular girls at school who have formed a dance troop called 'Les Mignonnes' or 'the Cuties.'

Amy spends hours nailing down choreography to provocative music videos so she can impress her new friends.

Filmmaker Doucouré says social media adds a layer of complexity to what it means to be an adolescent in 2020.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/06/90975...=1599757858637

..it seems to be engaging interest and there are some pretty good reviews...I’d have to try to watch it, Arista...to be able to comment on the Twitter cancel campaign...

I think the issue is, even if it's a good film with a good social commentary, there are huge problems regardless. One being that it's a live action film that features the heavy and overt sexualisation of actual child actors, which is hugely questionable in terms of ethics, and secondly like I said... the Netflix platform is too big and too mainstream for it to be appropriate. A lot of people watching will not be watching for the social commentary.

Also something I;ve seen come up frequently in relation to this... here is the Netflix poster (left) for the film, vs the original film festival poster (right);

Esentially, Netflix is being accused of playing UP the sexualisation of children for marketing purposes... and really... that's hard to argue against given this poster.

Swan · 10-09-2020, 05:22 PM

Seems people (myself included) are guilty of 'judging the book by it's cover', quite literally.

Ammi · 10-09-2020, 05:23 PM

...jeez...

‘Cuties’ Director Says She Received Death Threats After Netflix Poster Backlash; Ted Sarandos Called Her To Apologize...

https://deadline.com/2020/09/cuties-...ze-1234569783/

Ammi · 10-09-2020, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan

Seems people (myself included) are guilty of 'judging the book by it's cover', quite literally.

..or a movie by its Twitter..?....

Toy Soldier · 10-09-2020, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If it has something to say about the sexualisation of young girls, then that would make it valid imo. If it's just about kids twerking, then it is completely without merit, but I really knew nothing about it until this thread, so I can't really make a judgement.

I think the concept is valid and has a LOT of merit, however I think the fact that it's live-action and features scenes that overtly sexualise the child actors is problematic regardless of intent. Also I do think there's a huge distinction between a niche arthouse film that will be sought out by film fans... and a film being pushed by an algorithm on a platform as massive as Netflix. There are quite a few films I can think of that I've enjoyed as a film fan but would say are not right at all for a mainstream streaming platform for people to "stumble upon".

Ammi · 10-09-2020, 05:26 PM

...it’s the irony though...we have so much information given to us in a few moments...and yet we scream for ‘cancel’ without even taking a few moments to look at what it is we’re cancelling...it’s a total ‘sheep mentality’ as well, is it not...

Ammi · 10-09-2020, 05:27 PM

...not you, Swan btw...the cancel happy Twitter type sites...

The Slim Reaper · 10-09-2020, 05:29 PM

Ammi sends for Swan

Toy Soldier · 10-09-2020, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...it’s the irony though...we have so much information given to us in a few moments...and yet we scream for ‘cancel’ without even taking a few moments to look at what it is we’re cancelling...it’s a total ‘sheep mentality’ as well, is it not...

Obviously I agree with that too Ammi - I'm a vocal opponent of twitter pile-ons, the hive-mind and social media in general (I don't use it at all)

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I just also think that this was a product that at the very least needed to be handled with care, given the subject matter... and Netflix handled it about as ham-fistedly as they possibly could have. Netflix specifically changed the poster, one assumes because they thought their version would gather more attention... and I think that whether the film is guilty of sexualising children or not, the Neflix advertising of it DEFINITELY is. Of course in that case, the criticism should be aimed at Netflix and not the film creators.

arista · 10-09-2020, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's not a Neflix production, it's a French film that won awards at some film festival and Netflix bought the rights to it for international screening. I do think that was the wrong decision. I don't know that whatever "artistic merit" it has is worth the depictions of actual children in it and, either way, Netflix is far too mainstream a platform for it to be on.

Yes Netflix buy loads
but ingore the Anger over these 11 year old girls
being used as Sex objects

Ammi · 10-09-2020, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Ammi sends for Swan

..Swans, bruh...

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Swan · 10-09-2020, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..or a movie by its Twitter..?....

Correct

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi

...it’s the irony though...we have so much information given to us in a few moments...and yet we scream for ‘cancel’ without even taking a few moments to look at what it is we’re cancelling...it’s a total ‘sheep mentality’ as well, is it not...

Very true.

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...not you, Swan btw...the cancel happy Twitter type sites...

Nope, i hold my hands up, im guilty of this. I see the poster and immediately thought 'trashy reality show exploiting young girls'. Should have looked into it a bit more.

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Ammi sends for Swan

bitontheslide · 10-09-2020, 05:51 PM

jeez it's a very dodgy poster, how the hell did that get approved

arista · 10-09-2020, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...jeez...

‘Cuties’ Director Says She Received Death Threats After Netflix Poster Backlash; Ted Sarandos Called Her To Apologize...

https://deadline.com/2020/09/cuties-...ze-1234569783/

To be honest
it does not surprise me.

11 year old girls are not meant to be sex objects