[Redway]

I'm sure this sort of thread's been done to death on here but they've never ended well for obvious reasons. I thought I'd try it again but this time with a bit more respectfulness from either side (which isn't too much to ask), bearing in mind people from different religious and cultural backgrounds think different things about this thing.

[parmnion]

They used to.

[Redway]

Like I said people from different cultural backgrounds will have different things to say for this so there's no need to dismiss people who do believe in them (and vice versa). Respectfulness isn't a great deal to ask for so this thread shouldn't end up closed (touch wood).

[parmnion]

Covid killed them...nobody can predict that seemingly.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Perhaps anyone who says yes I have an open mind etc can explain how it works

Let's all examine and analyse their science


(No)

People from certain cultures have seen more unusual things than you have. Not everyone looks at these things from a modern Western perspective.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Redway

People from certain cultures have seen more unusual things than you have. Not everyone looks at these things from a modern Western perspective.

We can all see things whilst out our tits on plant juices.

[joeysteele]

I don't know is my answer at this time.
However I wouldn't dismiss the possibility or probability that some individuals may have.

I'd say no more likely to clairvoyants.
I can't say yes to all, nor say no either.

So cannot put a vote on your poll Redway.
Good question from you however and I will read the contributions mostly with interest.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I'm going to say no they haven't. And I'm going to say I'd like to see the scientific proof they have that isn't anecdotal hearsay.

I don't mean the story I mean how it works using all the scientific knowledge we have today .

And I’m going to say yes, they have. I say that as someone who’s a lot more exposed to non-Western cultures than you have. Trust me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Redway

And I’m going to say yes, they have. I say that as someone who’s a lot more exposed to non-Western cultures than you have. Trust me.

Maybe you'd like to expand? I'm a believer myself but wouldon't be interested to hear why you feel it's a cultural issue.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Maybe you'd like to expand? I'm a believer myself but wouldon't be interested to hear why you feel it's a cultural issue.

In non-Western cultures deeply rooted in spirituality and mythology stranger things exist than future-telling (no matter what LT says). That much is for sure.

[Gusto Brunt]

I don't know if they do, but I'd like to think they do.

[Nicky91]

idk what to believe, so i couldn't click no in the poll

[joeysteele]

Since the question is do psychic abilities exist.

I've decided to vote yes as I do believe they can.
Although most recognised clairvoyants I don't think have it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Redway

In non-Western cultures deeply rooted in spirituality and mythology stranger things exist than future-telling (no matter what LT says). That much is for sure.

As is ours for me, mythology has little to do with psychic ability though. LT isn't a believer and that's his prerogative, you can't dictate only one viewpoint participates in a debate.
You asked a question, if you don't want differing responses maybe you shouldn't have asked.

[Toy Soldier]

If psychic abilities existed they would be provable (and not just in a vague "my aunt's friend says..." way, in an actual in-depth study) as there would be a MASSIVE incentive to prove and market these abilities.

As they have never been proven and have actually been effectively dis-proven (the Nazis, followed by other governments, tried really hard to uncover psychic abilities all throughout the 20th century with no success) so I'm quite confident in saying that no, they don't exist.

[bitontheslide]

Youtube video

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

They used to.

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[Zizu]

Errrrrr .... no


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

And I’m going to say yes, they have. I say that as someone who’s a lot more exposed to non-Western cultures than you have. Trust me.

Proof or evidence.... perhaps ??


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[Jessica.]

Big fat no

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

As is ours for me, mythology has little to do with psychic ability though. LT isn't a believer and that's his prerogative, you can't dictate only one viewpoint participates in a debate.
You asked a question, if you don't want differing responses maybe you shouldn't have asked.

I don’t think that’s what I said and you know it. I said non-believers should show as much respect to the other side as they would. Read my OP again if you think I’m only after one particular kind of response.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Proof or evidence.... perhaps ??


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Evidence that certain non-Western cultures entertain spookier ideas?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Redway

Evidence that certain non-Western cultures entertain spookier ideas?

Evidence that their ideas hold basis in fact/are demonstrable and not based in superstition.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Evidence that certain non-Western cultures entertain spookier ideas?

No need for avoidance tactics.. you said YES to the initial question..

I presumed you had some evidence


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Evidence that their ideas hold basis in fact/are demonstrable and not based in superstition.

But we’re talking about personal beliefs here, not hard science.