[Liam-]

Have a feeling that wall is going to be red again come the next election after what the Tories have shown themselves to be again

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

All playing politics

There are more patients in hospital in Greater Manchester with Covid, than in entire SE and SW of the country

They should be locked down never mind Tier 3

Prime example of my earier point... Do you really think any regional lock down will keep Covid out of SE and SW?

Explain how regional lock down works for businesses... they keep trading but only in Manchester? The rest of the country cannot access goods and services from tier 3 areas?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Boris: *offers 60*
Andy: ‘actually we need a bit more than that to fully manage what we need to do please’
Boris: *reduces it to 20*

But of course, it’s not Boris that’s playing games

£60million was a Great High number


Burnham the Fool - Said NO
it must be £65milion,

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by arista

£60million was a Great High number


Burnham the Fool - Said NO
it must be £65milion,

The budget for the track and trace app is 12 BILLION

To fall out over 5 million is pathetic

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

£60million was a Great High number


Burnham the Fool - Said NO
it must be £65milion,

It's around £23 per head of the population of Manchester. It's not a lot.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by arista

£60million was a Great High number


Burnham the Fool - Said NO
it must be £65milion,

As Slim pointed out earlier Andy Burnham gave detailed costings and 65 was the bare mimimum he could go to. If he was playing games then he would have dug his heels in at 90 million and not conceded an inch.

[Dogeatdog]

I feel sorry for all the workers and the local businesses because they must be so confused and have no idea what help they can get.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yeah, this is the man playing games when Boris is the other person.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Prime example of my earier point... Do you really think any regional lock down will keep Covid out of SE and SW?

Explain how regional lock down works for businesses... they keep trading but only in Manchester? The rest of the country cannot access goods and services from tier 3 areas?

well it's been kept down so far pretty successfully.... My feeling is that there is more "natural" social distancing in the SW and SE and now people are more careful it's even more pronounced.

I was due to go up to Manchester in just over a week for a family event which I'm not going to now ... that's how we keep infections down and stop the transfer.

[parmnion]

He said he will continue to talk to andy burnedhole.

Manchester has recieved loads of money but it's useless and selfish citizens let andy down because he couldn't control them..boris was giving more money on top of what they have recieved already but had to keep it in line with what liverpool and elsewhere recieved for thier useless citizens being selfish as well.


Burnedhole is using boris as an excuse for his lack of control of his city.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Prime example of my earier point... Do you really think any regional lock down will keep Covid out of SE and SW?

Explain how regional lock down works for businesses... they keep trading but only in Manchester? The rest of the country cannot access goods and services from tier 3 areas?

They did say, the infection rates were rising everywhere.

Not so much at present but still rising.

Of course you're right, it can't be kept at bay in regional lockdowns.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

well it's been kept down so far pretty successfully.... My feeling is that there is more "natural" social distancing in the SW and SE and now people are more careful it's even more pronounced.

I was due to go up to Manchester in just over a week for a family event which I'm not going to now ... that's how we keep infections down and stop the transfer.

It's been kept down across the country we've all been under the same measures, this is the anticipated 2nd wave even 'natural' social distancing won't be enough...( whatever that is) even in the SE/SW they have to work, shop, live in multi generational households. Do you think covid gets so far down the M1 and stops?..

I'm loving these sanctimonious sounding comments on how you feel that people in some areas are somehow better equipped to deal with this.
Are you suggesting that us northern thickies only have ourselves to blame?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He said he will continue to talk to andy burnedhole.

Manchester has recieved loads of money but it's useless and selfish citizens let andy down because he couldn't control them..boris was giving more money on top of what they have recieved already but had to keep it in line with what liverpool and elsewhere recieved for thier useless citizens being selfish as well.


Burnedhole is using boris as an excuse for his lack of control of his city.

Genuine question could you live on two thirds of your salary?..

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kate!

As Slim pointed out earlier Andy Burnham gave detailed costings and 65 was the bare mimimum he could go to. If he was playing games then he would have dug his heels in at 90 million and not conceded an inch.

They weren't just Andy's costings either Kate.
They were accumulated from the regional areas with council leaders.
Even Graham Brady a Con MP in the region, agreed.

The fact is, this PM and government never intended a deal to be struck.
Hence even when Andy dropped his call for 75 million, right down to the bare amount deemed to be needed on the group worked on figures.
The government still.kept below that, knowing the deal would be unacceptable.

This PM is a total political liar.
He isn't just economical with the truth, he hasn't a clue what any truth is.
Nor any decency either.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Genuine question could you live on two thirds of your salary?..

Yes, and to be honest, pretty bloody easily if i couldnt go out. Just sitting at home raking it in playing the latest xbox or something. It would be a lot easier than my years on the dole as a teenager.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes, and to be honest, pretty bloody easily if i couldnt go out. Just sitting at home raking it in playing the latest xbox or something. It would be a lot easier than my years on the dole as a teenager.

Tbf, didn't you say you got a promotion recently that doubled your salary? If you were on min wage, do you think you could?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Tbf, didn't you say you got a promotion recently that doubled your salary? If you were on min wage, do you think you could?

Yes, pretty easily if I was confined to the house and only allowed out for essentials.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes, pretty easily if I was confined to the house and only allowed out for essentials.

I'm sure you are correct in the short term but what if it goes on for a possible 6 months or more?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes, pretty easily if I was confined to the house and only allowed out for essentials.

As a single person.....but could you with dependents? I know the benefits will make up some people's money but not all

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's been kept down across the country we've all been under the same measures, this is the anticipated 2nd wave even 'natural' social distancing won't be enough...( whatever that is) even in the SE/SW they have to work, shop, live in multi generational households. Do you think covid gets so far down the M1 and stops?..

I'm loving these sanctimonious sounding comments on how you feel that people in some areas are somehow better equipped to deal with this.
Are you suggesting that us northern thickies only have ourselves to blame?

it's not sanctimonious when the figures clearly show it, and i'm not point scoring, i have family in Manchester that are in the vulnerable category, so i am very concerned for their welfare. None of us can look at our fellow man suffering without regret. But the simple truth is that people are not social distancing in these hot spot areas and they haven't been for months, and they need to start now.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes, pretty easily if I was confined to the house and only allowed out for essentials.

I couldn't survive on min wage, let alone 2/3rds of it, and you're further south than I am, unless of course you don't have any bills to pay.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I'm sure you are correct in the short term but what if it goes on for a possible 6 months or more?

Then things like rent and mortgage payments need to be considered.

The 6 months you pulled out a hat is all down to how the people of manchester respond to this 2nd chance they have been given to not be totally locked down.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's not sanctimonious when the figures clearly show it, and i'm not point scoring, i have family in Manchester that are in the vulnerable category, so i am very concerned for their welfare. None of us can look at our fellow man suffering without regret. But the simple truth is that people are not social distancing in these hot spot areas and they haven't been for months, and they need to start now.

'I'm not being sanctimonious' ... ends post with a sanctimonious comment.

I'll come find this post when the SW/SE go into lock down.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

As a single person.....but could you with dependents? I know the benefits will make up some people's money but not all

I can't answer that, but Manchester has always pulled together according to andy so I doubt anyone will starve to death..

Sorry for the bluntness but it's how I see it.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Have a feeling that wall is going to be red again come the next election after what the Tories have shown themselves to be again

Wouldn’t hold my breath really.

The media will play their usual tricks come the time and all will be forgiven and forgotten by good ol’ lovable Boris.