[Kizzy]

Its a shame there couldn't be temporary covid hospitals, in each town specifically for those patients. To help reduce the spread of covid out of other hospitals.

That way funding could be more localised too with some areas only requiring minimal facilities and staffing.

[bitontheslide]

the nature of covid treatment has transformed since March, so the care profile will be completely different now from what was required then

[Ammi]

...yeah, I think it’s that this has been known.../..that step down facilities would be needed as varying treatments are now required/used more than the original breathing assistants...and that we would have these second wave requirements and yet nothing has been done to facilitate...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Right, I'm buying 200 quid worth off lottery tickets at the end of the month..probably euro millions..

Let's see eh.

Chuff,gone but never forgotten obviously.she must be missed,what an impact to have.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Chuff,gone but never forgotten obviously.she must be missed,what an impact to have.

She is still living in peoples head rent free

Chuff really has people talking, and probably will for years (on site and offsite), she really does play a big part in some peoples lives

[Toy Soldier]

"utopianman" is an anagram of "Man Pain, Out"

So I think we can be pretty sure it is The Truth.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

She is still living in peoples head rent free

Chuff really has people talking, and probably will for years (on site and offsite), she really does play a big part in some peoples lives

That's Chuffs impact,

[utopianman]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...this was an update on my newsfeed this morning...

Last week, Matt Hancock, the Health Secretary, confirmed that the Nightingale hospitals set up earlier this year would be ready to receive patients once again as conventional hospitals in some parts of the country faced becoming overwhelmed.

However, despite warnings in the spring that the London Nightingale needed to undergo a transformation to play a significant role over the winter, NHS England has admitted that no changes have been made to the facilities since the field hospital was put on "standby" in May.

...that’s only a relevant section taken, this is the whole article...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/londons-ni...154445508.html

..staffing will always be a thing during times like this but it doesn’t appear to be a specific staffing problem as a ‘step down facility’...it seems more a ‘not prepared, even though it’s always been said how we need to prepare for the winter months and second wave, problem..’...the government didn’t take time out from their three word slogan making to prepare something so important for what they knew would come...it caught them by surprise, did it...and again, what they expect from the public and what they give are two things that often don’t marry at all...

Thanks for that link, very informative, clearly all 4 governments have been asleep at the wheel on the nightingale hospitals

[parmnion]

She knew her bb that's for sure.

[utopianman]

https://www.europeanreview.org/wp/wp.../3442-3443.pdf

Quarantine hospitals are essential forCOVID-19 contention* *Dear Editor,The COVID-19 epidemic broke out in Wuhan, China at the end of 20191. The Chinese government has implemented control measures, including setting up special quarantine hospitals, forthe prevention and treatment of COVID-19 to mitigate its spread. The SARS-CoV-2 virus is thecause of the recent pneumonia outbreak and has since spread worldwide, posing a major threatto global public health2. In addition to the effective travel quarantine of Wuhan3, quarantinehospitals are essential for the mitigation of the spread of the COVID-19 outbreak.The Chinese health authorities notified WHO of an unknown etiology of pneumonia on December 31, 2019, which prompted health authorities to step up border surveillance. COVID-19spreads via human-to-human transmission. At the onset of the epidemic, the Wuhan MunicipalGovernment adopted a home quarantine approach to control it4; people with confirmed SARSCoV-2 infection were told to stay at home. This, however, did not curb the spread of the virus;increasing numbers of intra-family infections were reported, and it soon became evident thatthis home quarantine approach was not effective.The strategy changed from an at-home quarantine to a mandatory in-patient quarantine.Buildings were allocated for this purpose, and quarantine hospitals were quickly built. 7
Peoplewho tested positive to COVID-19 were admitted to these facilities and placed into isolation fromfamily and friends. This led to the control of intra-family infections, and became a lesson onhow to contain such a contagious pathogen. It is now accepted that all infected patients requireadmission to an isolation facility until the infectious period has passed. The fleeting return ofquarantine hospitals played a paramount role in infection control, and these hospitals have nowbeen partly decommissioned5.COVID-19 has become a global problem; for instance, it has severely impacted, amongother countries, also Iran. Indeed, a team of Chinese experts has visited Iran to provide information and guidance, and the country is now beginning to follow the Chinese quarantineroute to improve its outbreak. It is hoped that this course will contain the infection in Iran asit did in China. Public health experts worldwide should therefore take lessons from the Chineseexperience
Availability of Data and MaterialsAll data are publicly available.European Review for Medical and Pharmacological Sciences 2020; 24: 3442-3443Corresponding Authors: Juan Chen, MD; e-mail: chenjuan564453@163.comZhan-Hui Feng, MD; e-mail: h9450203@126.comQ