[AnnieK]

For every person who "abuses" the benefits system there is a person who "evades" paying correct taxes though. This stereotypical benefit scrounger **** needs to end when the upper class shift their money off shore to stop paying taxes. They are as much of a drain as the people they demonise for claiming state benefits

[arista]

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[arista]

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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I actually think this pandemic have shown a lot of people's true colours. On one hand there are the people who believe the government regardless of the hard heartedness and then there are the people who, in Tier 3, are facing financial ruin but are still helping families who are struggling.

Hopefully when all this is over the people will remember those who stopped children going hungry in these times.

I hope so too Annie.
Very much so.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I actually think this pandemic have shown a lot of people's true colours. On one hand there are the people who believe the government regardless of the hard heartedness and then there are the people who, in Tier 3, are facing financial ruin but are still helping families who are struggling.

Hopefully when all this is over the people will remember those who stopped children going hungry in these times.

...and that’s what it’s about, the children...society is so focused on looking at adults and judging adults and are those adults managing wisely with funding they have...could they do better...if they could do better but don’t manage to do better for whatever reason...?..and there isn’t enough sustenance for their children...we’ll just leave them and step back from them because society can only help people who are filled with wisdom in their money management...while all of this time and with all of these judgements etc...it’s the children who who are being deprived of...it’s the children who are being ‘punished’ because their parents couldn’t make their budgets meet... It’s so very easy to make other people’s budgets meet when they don’t have to be actually lived day after day and month after month and year after year etc...

...so many schools have policies of ...’...a child will not be excluded because of parent inability to pay...’...that’s generally applied to school visits and residential visits and after school activities etc so that children can rightfully all experience the same in their school lives or a part of their school life’s at primary school age...but there is a reluctance to fund a most basic thing like nourishment for a child and yet we’re teaching children that every child matters and that very exact wording and very principle is something that a conservative government has initiated and supported...(...well they haven’t and don’t support, that’s the whole thing...)....as in so many other things and other areas, children are just a slogan to them...a slogan that they can chant as they rest their comfortable heads on their comfortable pillows each night...They did a comfortable days work and applied a slogan with a comfortable sentiment...

...schools and school staff have always and do step up in providing breakfast clubs and school visit experiences through their own school and personal budgets...gaps which have never been addressed by the government because ‘others are doing’, so they were happy to allow others, they’re always happy to allow others...businesses and the public are now stepping up because of Marcus Rashford...because of him alone in his seeing a huge gap area...this will never be addressed while that’s happening also...business and the public will provide ‘while they can and are able to’..but that’s not change, is it../..it can only ever be a thing of the moment...only the government have the power to make changes and to give truth to their slogan and making every child feel as though they matter...

[Ammi]

...one of the things about children is that they don’t make judgements in the same ways...a child would see another child without food or very little food and they would say...’would you like some of this’...they see and feel others so clearly...and they see their hero’s as well, they know who they are...hence so many child drawn pictures of Marcus Rashford under that hero heading...showing that success and luxurious lifestyle doesn’t bring detachment with it...those drawn pictures should be government members but they’re not...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

quite right Kaz.



id imagine if children are "starving" its due to the feckless nature of their parents more than anything

This attitude of kicking people while they are down is actually disgusting tbh, these people are some of the ones in our society that need the most help, benefits dont leave any room for extra costs cropping up and yes that includes affording extra food for when the kids are off school etc then theres people that were living on decent wages that have been pushed into poverty due to losing thier jobs or a massive percent of wages caused by covid.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.

No kids will starve?

Surely you are aware that there are over 4 million kids living in poverty in the UK?

[The Slim Reaper]

For some context.

The maths has been verified.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Josy

This attitude of kicking people while they are down is actually disgusting tbh, these people are some of the ones in our society that need the most help, benefits dont leave any room for extra costs cropping up and yes that includes affording extra food for when the kids are off school etc then theres people that were living on decent wages that have been pushed into poverty due to losing thier jobs or a massive percent of wages caused by covid.

When people look down on the vulnerable and kick them, it gives them the false impression that they are those people's betters, that they are closer to the 1% then they are to the gutter and it's all just bull****. Most of us are middle and working class and we're all just a set of bad circumstances away from being in the most vulnerable's shoes.

[Kizzy]

That's right, isn't it said that the majority are only 3 wageslips from homelessness?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's right, isn't it said that the majority are only 3 wageslips from homelessness?

only if you have no relatives or friends

and that isnt the majority of anyone

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

only if you have no relatives or friends

and that isnt the majority of anyone

A lot of people won't ask family or friends though.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kate!

A lot of people won't ask family or friends though.

why?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why?

Pride and/or shame.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Pride and/or shame.

I dont think you would choose sleeping rough to asking for a bed at your pals house or a relative?

unless in very exceptional circumstances you had no pals and all your relatives don't speak to you

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I dont think you would choose sleeping rough to asking for a bed at your pals house or a relative?

unless in very exceptional circumstances you had no pals and all your relatives don't speak to you

Supposing you did have some family, what makes you think that they would be in a position to help out financially?
The majority of us are in the same boat and living in our overdraft by payday.. how could we support anyone else?

[bitontheslide]

the government is clearly making a point. They provided local councils extra funding, and it's up to those councils to decide and prioritise what gets funded. It is a local responsibility to make sure services are provided for the community, not central government

[Ammi]

...that’s not true, though...the governments have always supplied local funding but school meals or any school related funding has never been drawn from that local budget...school budgets, which would include meals...have always been separate to local authority budgets...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...that’s not true, though...the governments have always supplied local funding but school meals or any school related funding has never been drawn from that local budget...school budgets, which would include meals...have always been separate to local authority budgets...

Plus it was only to in part provide the meals in TERM TIME.
This is the whole point.
They haven't really done anything to address the meals NOT in term time.

It's amazing people just automatically believe and accept Johnson and his Ministers spin on things.

Nothing has been done to assist free meals during the odd weeks of school holidays

The government policy is still NOT to provide free meals in school holidays.
Even now.
Something his diehard supporters choose to ignore, while beating a stick over the vulnerable families.
Blaming them for the difficulties they are in, while not even knowing the difficulties they are or could be in either.

That stinks and it's heartless, to me it is anyway.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the government is clearly making a point. They provided local councils extra funding, and it's up to those councils to decide and prioritise what gets funded. It is a local responsibility to make sure services are provided for the community, not central government

Local councils have been decimated after a decade of austerity cuts. The extra funding they originally provided, was to be spent by October 12th.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Local councils have been decimated after a decade of austerity cuts. The extra funding they originally provided, was to be spent by October 12th.

Exactly and if they hadn't used it, they'd have lost it.
Exactly.

[bitontheslide]

yeah, the concept of paying for services in advance of a particular date doesn't exist