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13-11-2020, 09:49 AM | #51 | |||
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...Mary Shelley, I meant...both Mary’s obviously...
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13-11-2020, 10:00 AM | #52 | |||
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Yeah that's true, both brilliant women
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13-11-2020, 10:34 AM | #53 | |||
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the sculptor was making a statement with the statue rather than letting the persons life, that the statue depicts, make the statement
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13-11-2020, 10:41 AM | #54 | |||
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The statue does the same, it turns Wollstonecraft into "that woman with the naked statue" instead of who and what she is and achieved. |
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13-11-2020, 11:53 AM | #55 | |||
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Oh ,that's sad ,I do suppose this has us talking about her more, I knew nothing about her.
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13-11-2020, 11:54 AM | #56 | |||
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13-11-2020, 12:28 PM | #57 | ||
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Quite right Bots, and her life was about feminism, which (as we know) is mostly about boobies and vaginas and other associated lady paraphernalia.
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13-11-2020, 02:24 PM | #58 | |||
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The attitude towards a naked female body from women describing themselves as feminists tells me her achievements may have been more progressive than ours.
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13-11-2020, 02:28 PM | #59 | ||
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It's the fact that it looks unfinished that bothers me the most, like they got a lump of metal, chiselled out a woman at the top and then called it a day.
Like you could have taken that and then chiselled out Mary writing and the naked woman could be flowing out of the pages and be seen as the artistic impression of freedom through her words, or something. |
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13-11-2020, 02:31 PM | #60 | |||
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Sorry, can you explain what you mean by this? Are you saying I'm not a feminist because I think this Statue is not an appropriate way to commemorate Mary Wollstonecraft? (I may have misunderstood your point here.....I hope I did )
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13-11-2020, 02:33 PM | #61 | ||
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Depicting a great historical intellect in the form of a fertility statue that suggests the standout feature of a woman is that she's "a birther and a nurser" isn't progressive, it's a misfire. Unless it's supposed to be ironic?
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13-11-2020, 02:35 PM | #62 | ||
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Not Woke Enough as usual Niamh. 21st century feminism is about empowered sex work, titty statues and consensually choking on ****. Take THAT, patriarchy!
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13-11-2020, 02:36 PM | #63 | |||
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That for me is peak patriarchy, don't show your raw self that's what the suggestions that it detracts from her work show me.
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13-11-2020, 02:37 PM | #64 | |||
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It's depressing
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13-11-2020, 02:38 PM | #65 | |||
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Is that how you see a naked female as nothing but a walking womb? That's a shame.
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13-11-2020, 02:39 PM | #66 | |||
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13-11-2020, 02:42 PM | #67 | |||
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....one of the things that the sculpture has said is...
“As far as I know, she’s more or less the shape we’d all like to be.” ....that really doesn’t sit well at all with me ...with so many young females having low body image... |
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13-11-2020, 02:46 PM | #68 | |||
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...this is Maggi Hambling’s sculpture of Oscar Wilde at Charing Cross...just for interest...
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13-11-2020, 02:50 PM | #69 | |||
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And it would have been weird to have a statue commemorating Oscar Wild in the nude as well.........but that would never happen anyway
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13-11-2020, 02:53 PM | #70 | ||
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Most people have no problem with statues or art that depict nudity of females, males, or both at once. Heck, it would even be a different discussion if she had made or commissioned a statue herself. However IMO it only takes a brief skim of what she actually wrote about to cast doubt on this artists' decision being appropriate to the subject. |
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13-11-2020, 02:55 PM | #71 | ||
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13-11-2020, 03:02 PM | #72 | |||
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I am absolutely comfortable with nude art/statues in general
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13-11-2020, 03:08 PM | #73 | |||
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Writer Caitlin Moran claimed a better representation of a naked "everywoman" would be of "Wollstonecraft dying, at 38, in childbirth, as so many women did back then - ending her revolutionary work."
Writer Tracy King tweeted: "There is no reason to depict Mary naked unless you are trying to be edgy to provoke debate. "Statues of named men get to be clothed because the focus is on their work and achievements. "Meanwhile, women walking or jogging through parks experience high rates of sexual harassment because our bodies are considered public property." Historian Simon Schama wrote that he "always wanted a fine monument to Wollstonecraft - this isn't it". |
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13-11-2020, 03:10 PM | #74 | ||
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At the most basic level, it's just absolute nonsense to suggest that everyone has the same body ideal, or even close to it .
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13-11-2020, 03:29 PM | #75 | |||
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Modern Art is repulsive. |
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