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Black Dagger · 11-12-2020, 07:38 AM

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I'm confused, has it been changed again???

It got changed back to the original after Alf changed the title to his dead name.

Niamh. · 11-12-2020, 09:19 AM

Just regarding "Vanya" in The Umbrella Academy, that name is unisex anyway and the character is very gender neutral (eventhough I know she's supposed to be female)

Oliver_W · 11-12-2020, 09:33 AM

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I think the reality of choosing to transition when you have a partner must include accepting that they may no longer be sexually attracted to you. But also, you'd assume that anyone in a GOOD relationship would have those conversations long before any actual physical transition started.

You do of course get those who claim its "transphobic" for a lesbian woman (or gay man) to no longer be sexually interested in someone once they've changed gender... Which obviously is nonsense.

And then there's the elephant in the room even for those who are bisexual/pansexual; an attractive woman does not necessarily transition to being an attractive man, an attractive man does not necessarily make an attractive woman. And vice versa, actually; many look objectively better.

eeeehhhh I see what you mean, but if Page is only intending to transition socially, then he will never really look male, so a female who finds him attractive would still be lesbian...

Captain.Remy · 11-12-2020, 11:12 AM

J.K. Rowling being salty and having an opinion somewhere reading this news.

Niamh. · 11-12-2020, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

J.K. Rowling being salty and having an opinion somewhere reading this news.

What does that even mean?

Marsh. · 11-12-2020, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

J.K. Rowling being salty and having an opinion somewhere reading this news.

Educate yourself before spouting sh*te like this. Try reading her words and not someone else's opinion of her.

Toy Soldier · 11-12-2020, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

J.K. Rowling being salty and having an opinion somewhere reading this news.

Having a WHAT??? How DARE she! Which group's opinion does she have? Not... Not one of her own, surely? What a useless dried up old hag!

Captain.Remy · 11-12-2020, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Educate yourself before spouting sh*te like this. Try reading her words and not someone else's opinion of her.

Yeah it's OK, we all know what she thinks. As a LGBTQ person myself, trust I'm well educated about this, and so is the rest of the community and trans people who felt hurt about what she said.

Anyway, a lot of support to Eliott Page and that's what matters

Captain.Remy · 11-12-2020, 02:38 PM

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Having a WHAT??? How DARE she! Which group's opinion does she have? Not... Not one of her own, surely? What a useless dried up old hag!

It's like I'm having an opinion about someone being a man or a woman. It's kind of useless, and I'm not having one.
People can just give love, support and go about their day. It's not that hard.
But obviously people had A LOT to say about Eliott, as usual.

We love you Eliott

Niamh. · 11-12-2020, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

It's like I'm having an opinion about someone being a man or a woman. It's kind of useless, and I'm not having one.
People can just give love, support and go about their day. It's not that hard.
But obviously people had A LOT to say about Eliott, as usual.

We love you Eliott

Has JK Rowling given an opinion on Elliot because I don't think she has? You've imagined an opinion for her that, from what I have read from JK Rowling probably is very very wrong.

AnnieK · 11-12-2020, 02:55 PM

Totally ruining the thread by dragging JK in. Most people in here will be supportive and show the love to Elliot during his transition but bringing up a divisive topic kind of demeans it, especially when JK hasn't commented on this news.

parmnion · 11-12-2020, 03:20 PM

How times have changed...I would have gotten a clout round the lug hole from my dad for suggesting such a thing.

Oliver_W · 11-12-2020, 03:27 PM

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How times have changed...I would have gotten a clout round the lug hole from my dad for suggesting such a thing.

Isn't Page about 35?

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Yeah it's OK, we all know what she thinks. As a LGBT person myself, trust I'm well educated about this, and so is the rest of the community and trans people who felt hurt about what she said.

Anyway, a lot of support to Eliott Page and that's what matters

So you're a lesbian, bisexual, gay, and transexual?! That's quite an accomplishment!

I'm gay and her words haven't hurt me, because they weren't hurtful.

Captain.Remy · 11-12-2020, 03:46 PM

Oh wow a lot of feelings out there regarding my comment.
Alright, so to be clear: no JK Rowling didn't make any comment about Elliott (that we know of). I wrote that comment in a silly way because well, a lot of people have had strong negative opinions about Elliott coming out and because JK Rowling is known for some opinions she has about transgender people.

Also, to people who are not trans and don't think the comments were hurtful: Congratulations, I guess? Good for you? She received a lot of backlash from Trans (and non-trans) people, so 1. that's for a reason and 2. only them know what to feel.
I'm just saying I support what these (and obviously not all) people feel, and can see why it could be potentially hurtful to them.
I mean, who am I to say I don't agree with what trans people feel. I guess they do not know better. (since it's recurring for people to tell other people how they should feel)

So yeah, silly me. I'm back to cooking. At least people on TIBB are tolerant and welcoming when it comes to that. Good night guys !

PS: no, I'm not a lesbian, bisexual, gay, and transexual all at once. Though that would be a fun experience to try for one day

But you got the point. Being bi is enough for me!

Oliver_W · 11-12-2020, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Oh wow a lot of feelings out there regarding my comment.
Alright, so to be clear: no JK Rowling didn't make any comment about Elliott (that we know of). I wrote that comment in a silly way because well, a lot of people have had strong negative opinions about Elliott coming out and because JK Rowling is known for some opinions she has about transgender people.

Also, to people who are not trans and don't think the comments were hurtful: Congratulations, I guess?

What has she said that's hurtful?

Marsh. · 11-12-2020, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Yeah it's OK, we all know what she thinks. As a LGBTQ person myself, trust I'm well educated about this, and so is the rest of the community and trans people who felt hurt about what she said.

Anyway, a lot of support to Eliott Page and that's what matters

You're gay so you're the only one allowed an opinion on trans matters and you're the expert?

No.

Shaun · 11-12-2020, 05:27 PM

is there not a hint of irony that there are - so far - 5 people attacking Remy in here for a daft aside comment when the narrative is supposed to be that WokeTwitter are the ones forcing things down our throats?

chill out, everyone

Marsh. · 11-12-2020, 05:29 PM

No one's attacked him. So no.

AnnieK · 11-12-2020, 05:33 PM

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is there not a hint of irony that there are - so far - 5 people attacking Remy in here for a daft aside comment when the narrative is supposed to be that WokeTwitter are the ones forcing things down our throats?

chill out, everyone

Attacking? Really? Commenting on a post is now attacking people?

My point was purely to query the reasoning behind a JK Rowling reference in a thread that should, quite rightly, have been quite celebratory and recognising the transition he has begun. I merely queried why bring up Rowling in this thread, knowing it would spark debate when there is already a thread dedicated to that particular subject. It detracts from what this thread should be about imo.

Couldn't have been further than an attack if I tried.

Marsh. · 11-12-2020, 05:34 PM

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Also, to people who are not trans and don't think the comments were hurtful: Congratulations, I guess? Good for you?

You're not trans yourself? And there's plenty trans people who agreed with her. So all that proves is everyone has a different opinion on it regardless of trans status so speaking on behalf of the LGBT community because you're bi is a little silly.

And it's also turning the topic into something it never was. JK's essay wasn't attacking transpeople, it was raising concerns about things that affect young people and women, both trans and cis. And that is a topic relevant to anyone.

GoldHeart · 11-12-2020, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

J.K. Rowling being salty and having an opinion somewhere reading this news.

Wow another dig at JK Rowling

Niamh. · 11-12-2020, 06:16 PM

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is there not a hint of irony that there are - so far - 5 people attacking Remy in here for a daft aside comment when the narrative is supposed to be that WokeTwitter are the ones forcing things down our throats?

chill out, everyone

I didn't attack him, I like Remy