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05-12-2020, 09:26 PM | #1 | |||
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05-12-2020, 09:36 PM | #2 | |||
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What're they playing at, it's the UK, not 18th century America... |
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05-12-2020, 09:42 PM | #3 | |||
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I'm not 100% behind everything that BLM does if I'm being 100% honest, but booing it? No because the basic principles behind BLM are perfectly acceptable to support imo.
Trust some of the Millwall fans to give their club a bad name.
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05-12-2020, 09:47 PM | #4 | ||
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Well with so few of them there, it should be very easy to identify them and to ensure those so called fans don't get in again.
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05-12-2020, 09:47 PM | #5 | |||
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But surely these must be life long fans first in line for entry on the first game back..its a bad look for the club that's for sure..I had 3 friends there today who ended up on TV.. they wernt even boing but were shown in a clip on the news..
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05-12-2020, 09:57 PM | #6 | |||
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Don't bring divisive politics to your place of work then, especially when you're working for the people of the community.
Take that sh!t to social media. Get used to it, because as long as they keep kneeling, they're gonna get boo'd, that's just the way it is. The only way to stop that, is to leave your divisive politics at home and get on with the job you're paid for, playing football. Last edited by Alf; 05-12-2020 at 10:03 PM. |
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05-12-2020, 10:22 PM | #7 | |||
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I don't see how taking the knee is classed as divisive politics. Although its linked to BLM, which people believe is a political movement, football have been trying to eradicate racism for years...they now have some form of symbolism to show how against racism in the game they are. Unless you are happy for black players to be called monkeys or worse, I don't see how you can boo what is nothing more than a symbolic gesture against racism
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05-12-2020, 10:23 PM | #8 | |||
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Why even bother booing though, it's like a 3 second knee..then back up for the kick off..
I would be too busy munching a pie to even care about what was happening before kick off. |
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05-12-2020, 10:29 PM | #9 | ||
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05-12-2020, 10:39 PM | #10 | ||
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It’s a two way street at the end of end day, if people want to show their support for blm by going on one knee then people should be allowed to boo because they don’t agree with.
My personal opinion is going down on one knee bollox and just for show. |
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05-12-2020, 10:58 PM | #11 | |||
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Football have been fighting against racism for years though....they now have a symbolic gesture to make a stand....how can that be bollocks??
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05-12-2020, 11:09 PM | #12 | ||
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06-12-2020, 12:12 AM | #13 | |||
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The gesture is adopted by Kick It Out, so everyone booing it isn't even criticising BLM; they're criticising the ongoing football racism group. Not that I expect Millwall fans or your usuals on this thread to understand or care about such nuances.
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06-12-2020, 12:21 AM | #14 | ||
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Why does everything have to be 'you can do this but you can't do that' and so devisive these days?
You can show support by taking the knee and you can boo because you don't agree with taking the knee for whatever reason. Both responses are called 'freedom of expression'. Humans just don't march in lockstep, they never have and they never will. The more they are pushed to conform one way or the other in current issues, the more deeply entrenched their own stance becomes. Human nature again. |
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06-12-2020, 02:37 AM | #15 | |||
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"Both responses are called freedom of expression" - in an environment catered to by a business. The football governing bodies are well within their rights to dictate what is and isn't allowed within a club's stadium, and if Millwall had any sense, they'll be issuing bans to idiots who follow suit. To even compare the two "responses" is just... alarming, though. One is a quiet gesture, the other is aggressive noise. One calls for racial equality, the other can't get to grips with what that means and reacts angrily to things they don't understand.
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06-12-2020, 02:52 AM | #16 | |||
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06-12-2020, 03:00 AM | #17 | |||
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Where's the respect? Where's it written that you can't express support for anyone on a human level...it's not political in the slightest.
If you want to show support take the knee, if you don't. .don't. Why mock those that do? Baying like pack of baboons isn't going to stop them, and effectively this aggressively negative reaction by certain 'fans' compounds just why that support is needed.
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06-12-2020, 03:33 AM | #18 | ||
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06-12-2020, 05:49 AM | #19 | ||
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Stop the one knee bollox and donate money from their wages to actually fight racism in their local communitys. Going down on s knee for a few seconds is not going to change anyone’s life. |
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06-12-2020, 05:57 AM | #20 | ||
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06-12-2020, 08:30 AM | #21 | ||
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It's doing exactly what you suggest, publicly condemning it. Last edited by Marsh.; 06-12-2020 at 08:31 AM. |
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06-12-2020, 08:55 AM | #22 | |||
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People don't watch football games for boring "virtue signals" relating to foreign countries, especially when it's something the media didn't shut up about all summer.
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06-12-2020, 08:59 AM | #23 | ||
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Yet racism is a problem in football. Not heard you complain that you don't watch football for that.
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06-12-2020, 09:03 AM | #24 | |||
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06-12-2020, 09:08 AM | #25 | |||
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Have you not heard of black players being racially abused by fans? Racism is a big problem in football, hence the Kick It Out campaign. Listen to the likes of Stirling, Rashford telling of the abuse they've had directed at them from fans and then tell them that racism isn't still rife in the game
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