[joeysteele]

This should have been announced earlier, however the procrastination has been the trademark of this PM and his government all through.

Relaxing 5 days at Christmas was always going to be a dangerous error.

The measures are right but as ever from this inept PM, likely again too late.

The simple fact is he and the Ministers HE'S chosen are NOT up to the task and have by dangerous action at times, plus their inaction too shown that all through.

Now, perhaps no one else would have done any better.
I doubt that myself, we needed clarity, truth and necessary at each needed time action.
All we got and get is muddle, deceit and even lies and finally dangerous procrastination.

Scandalous and a shambles.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

tier 3 has kept the likes of liverpool and manchester in check, but that isn't enough in london and the south east, so its very relevant. If the new strain takes hold in the rest of the country, the whole country will end up in tier 4 until April

You misunderstood the point there.. and once again made some bizarre reference to a difference in behaviours that has enabled the spread in some areas but not other's.

Why were the rules OK for the north but not SE?
The levels there were rising way before the new strain was discovered. As I said months ago there is NOTHING that will stop this virus from engulfing the country bar a vaccine.

Let's hope it's effective for this new strain.

[Kizzy]

Boris has finally stopped bowing to business and started listening g to the health experts...it's about time!!

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This should have been announced earlier, however the procrastination has been the trademark of this PM and his government all through.

Relaxing 5 days at Christmas was always going to be a dangerous error.

The measures are right but as ever from this inept PM, likely again too late.

The simple fact is he and the Ministers HE'S chosen are NOT up to the task and have by dangerous action at times, plus their inaction too shown that all through.

Now, perhaps no one else would have done any better.
I doubt that myself, we needed clarity, truth and necessary at each needed time action.
All we got and get is muddle, deceit and even lies and finally dangerous procrastination.

Scandalous and a shambles.

Blame Vallance and Whitty as well

[bitontheslide]

They only got the data on the new variant on Friday so it was a very rapid reaction to that. I always said that the 5 day mixing over Christmas was a bad idea, but it was agreed by all the 4 nations at the time, so they take collective responsibility for the stupidity

[Cherie]

Well some people were crying out for direction on Christmas from the government...they got it in spades

[Jake.]

Announcing this five days before Christmas is an absolute farce. Shambolic doesn’t even cut it anymore.

[UserSince2005]

I’m actually ****ed off. They made the rail companies mark all trains this evening as sold out. Literally cutting me off. How dare they

[parmnion]

Its ****e.

[Oliver_W]

Just think how better everything would be if they'd have done a circuit breaker when Sir Keir suggested it...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Blame Vallance and Whitty as well

Well the health experts always expressed concern at the 5 day relaxation at Christmas.
Johnson has NOT always followed the health and science.

Only when it suited him until forced by the dangerous delays to then eventually act.

He's even disregarded health and science advice at times too.

[Vanessa]

oh well, hopefully things will get better with the vaccine.

[GoldHeart]

Tier 4 now , I bet they'll announce tier 5 next .

[smudgie]

So most of us still get a Christmas of sorts.
Albeit shorter and less people allowed.
Roll on Easter, hopefully we can all go crackers.

[Kizzy]

You know what.. I'm beginning to thing this was all very much planned. I don't think it's been the **** show it first appears.

Yes people have died but in a very controlled way to avoid overloading NHS capacity. I'd say In MY OPINION that this was achieved by covertly adopting the herd immunity strategy.

By this I mean that there has been a staggering of exposure by differing groups to maximise spread in different age groups and now geographical areas.

First everything was locked down then slowly exposure was turned on an off in order, shops closed then restaurants opened, then gyms opened, then schools opened, people could meet indoors then shops closed again, restaurants closed again but gyms, shops and schools stayed open ... now it's no meeting again.

It's like they are deliberately edging towards a tipping point then pulling back the reins.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Just think how better everything would be if they'd have done a circuit breaker when Sir Keir suggested it...

Like Wales? What a success that has been

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

So most of us still get a Christmas of sorts.
Albeit shorter and less people allowed.
Roll on Easter, hopefully we can all go crackers.

Yes, you would think the end of the world was nigh the way some are carrying on

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It’s no different in Germany, France, Spain, Italy

But there's places who aren't in our situation because their gov hasn't ****ed up likes ours

[Scarlett.]

Apparently trains out of London are packed way over the recommended COVID capacity

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LukeB

But there's places who aren't in our situation because their gov hasn't ****ed up likes ours

Where in Europe are these places?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Scarlett.

Apparently trains out of London are packed way over the recommended COVID capacity

Idiots, imagine these people arriving on your doorstep, they know they are potentially carrying a virus but heading off anyway

[arista]

[arista]

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Where in Europe are these places?

I was speaking about places all over the world not only Europe but like Dezzy said this could have been avoided if common sense was used yes rule breakers but that wasn’t the only issue. You can’t excuse entering lockdown too late, lockdown not being strict enough and keeping the schools open when that was one of the main reasons why the cases went up. How hard ls it to blame the leaders as well as rule breakers? No one can say the UK are doing great and the gov are doing great.

[Kizzy]

Oh but the govt are doing great! It's their covid hokey cokey.

Altogether now!..

..in,out, in, out spread it all about. Put us into lock down then flip it all around that's what it's all about!

Ooooohhh do the covid cokey. ... oOoooohhh do the covid cokey, Ooooohhh do the covid cokey, Boris is bent NHS is stretched RaRaRa!