[Samm]

Originally Posted by Scarlett.

It all depends what happens when schools are reopened

They’re all being tested around twice a week this time though. That didn’t happen last time

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

cyprus are just stating the date they will start accepting visitors from, thats is independent of what other countries rules are

They specifically mention Brits though

Cyprus will allow British tourists who have been fully vaccinated against Covid-19 into the country without restrictions from 1 May, a tourism minister has said.

British visitors are the largest market for the country’s tourism industry, which has suffered during the coronavirus pandemic. Arrivals and earnings from the sector, which represents about 13% of the Cypriot economy, plunged on average 85% in 2020.

“We have informed the British government that from 1 May we will facilitate the arrival of British nationals who have been vaccinated … so they can visit Cyprus without a negative test or needing to quarantine,” the deputy tourism minister, Savvas Perdios, said on Thursday.

The Guardian

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I might not go abroad this year.

I think it might be better to wait next year.

Because Europe is really behind with vaccinations.

While here in the UK we're doing brilliantly.

So I might just go somewhere in the UK.

There are so many great places to visit here, like the Lake District or Cornwall.

St Ives and Scarborough for us ...maybe


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Samm

They’re all being tested around twice a week this time though. That didn’t happen last time

They’re gonna be doing it at home though after the first test in school...


The LFD tests were only found to be 48%
accurate when done by trained staff ..

So I’m not too hopeful about the home testing situation..

It’s a finicky process just getting the swab done properly ..

Some authorities are saying swab both nostrils for ten seconds each ..as the back of the throat option wasn’t working..

Plus no food or drink 30 minutes before the test ...


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[Vicky.]

Using a test with less than 50% accuracy is insane to me. Whats the point in that, besides saying 'oh, look, we are doing something!!!'

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Using a test with less than 50% accuracy is insane to me. Whats the point in that, besides saying 'oh, look, we are doing something!!!'

It is near insane.
No point at all.
I agree with that.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Using a test with less than 50% accuracy is insane to me. Whats the point in that, besides saying 'oh, look, we are doing something!!!'

“ it’s LIKELY you were not infectious “ .. . possibly, maybe ...





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[Zizu]

On this morning’s BBC Breakfast, interviewer Naga Munchetty put it to Mr Gibb that the LFD tests “detected just 48.9 per cent of Covid-19 infections in asymptomatic people”.

The 48 % figure is supported by a
SAGE paper.

(dated 25 November)


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[Samm]

Originally Posted by Zizu

“ it’s LIKELY you were not infectious “ .. . possibly, maybe ...





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This is the same response you get when you do a normal test that takes up to 48 hours to come back. I’ve done both in the past two months and they both use “likely”

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Doctor and nurses think they deserve a pay rise at all when 120k people have died on their watch. Biggest joke ever.

You think that’s the NHS’s fault as opposed to the absolute incompetence of the government?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Zizu

St Ives and Scarborough for us ...maybe


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I usually go to Southend, because it's closer to London.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They’re gonna be doing it at home though after the first test in school...


The LFD tests were only found to be 48%
accurate when done by trained staff ..

So I’m not too hopeful about the home testing situation..

It’s a finicky process just getting the swab done properly ..

Some authorities are saying swab both nostrils for ten seconds each ..as the back of the throat option wasn’t working..

Plus no food or drink 30 minutes before the test ...


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Those tests aren't very accurate.
They should do proper testing.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

5.378 new cases

176 new hospitalisations 9 less than yesterday (1.863 in total)

36 new ICU patients 3 less than yesterday (542 in total)

42 new deaths

[bitontheslide]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Samm

This is the same response you get when you do a normal test that takes up to 48 hours to come back. I’ve done both in the past two months and they both use “likely”

Fair enough ... though the accuracy rate of both are very different


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[arista]

Saturday 6/3/21

Today 158 deaths

6,040 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
10,898

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
1,542

124,419Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Saturday 6/3/21

Today 158 deaths

6,040 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
10,898

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
1,542

124,419Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Well as per usual weekend and Monday figures will be predictably low .. that said we are still around 10,000 new infections each day ... that’s the equivalent of nearly 4 million per year .

A few months ago I saw a highly renowned virologist on Sky News state that before you come out of a lockdown situation you must get the daily infection rate BELOW 100 !!!

That figure of 100 was the ‘generally accepted’ cut off point and above that is risky


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[Samm]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well as per usual weekend and Monday figures will be predictably low .. that said we are still around 10,000 new infections each day ... that’s the equivalent of nearly 4 million per year .

A few months ago I saw a highly renowned virologist on Sky News state that before you come out of a lockdown situation you must get the daily infection rate BELOW 100 !!!

That figure of 100 was the ‘generally accepted’ cut off point and above that is risky


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we are literally not around 10,000 cases a day? you're talking like the daily cases this week have all been 9,000k? you really want more livelihoods to be destroyed until we reach 100 cases a day which is pretty irrelevant since it's mainly the hospitals admissions/deaths that are core now.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

ffs Tower Hamlets

[Vicky.]

I fail to see how we could ever get to 100 per day tbh. Given the spread is mainly hospitals and carehomes, two of the few places we simply cannot shut down, for any length of time.

Cannot put the genie back in the bottle at this stage. 100 or less new infections a day is fantasy to me unfortunately

Only way I can see that we could get the stats to say that, is stop mass testing (or not include hospital/carehome infectinons). Which, would just hide the figures rather than alter them in any way.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Samm

we are literally not around 10,000 cases a day? you're talking like the daily cases this week have all been 9,000k? you really want more livelihoods to be destroyed until we reach 100 cases a day which is pretty irrelevant since it's mainly the hospitals admissions/deaths that are core now.

Ok averaging 6,500 to 7,000 daily BUT those are ONLY the people being tested .. can you IMAGINE just how many actual new infections there are !!

.... and I don’t want anything .. certainly not livelihoods destroyed but I was quoting an eminent virologist NOT simply picking numbers out of the ether


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I fail to see how we could ever get to 100 per day tbh. Given the spread is mainly hospitals and carehomes, two of the few places we simply cannot shut down, for any length of time.

Cannot put the genie back in the bottle at this stage. 100 or less new infections a day is fantasy to me unfortunately

Only way I can see that we could get the stats to say that, is stop mass testing (or not include hospital/carehome infectinons). Which, would just hide the figures rather than alter them in any way.

I haven’t seen that stat about the majority being in hospitals and care homes .. I thought that was last year .. if you see a link please post it .


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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Ok averaging 6,500 to 7,000 daily BUT those are ONLY the people being tested .. can you IMAGINE just how many actual new infections there are !!

.... and I don’t want anything .. certainly not livelihoods destroyed but I was quoting an eminent virologist NOT simply picking numbers out of the ether


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there were nearly a million tested yesterday of which 6000 were positive, so there is still a lot of testing going on. The numbers of infected will decrease as the number of vaccinated increases. If we are at 40% vaccinated now, thats 40% of the population that wont be hospitalised and as they were the most vulnerable, it means the likelihood of future hospitalisation overall is very small. We shouldn't discount the tidal wave of change that has happened in a few short weeks

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there were nearly a million tested yesterday of which 6000 were positive, so there is still a lot of testing going on. The numbers of infected will decrease as the number of vaccinated increases. If we are at 40% vaccinated now, thats 40% of the population that wont be hospitalised and as they were the most vulnerable, it means the likelihood of future hospitalisation overall is very small. We shouldn't discount the tidal wave of change that has happened in a few short weeks

True enough


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[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I haven’t seen that stat about the majority being in hospitals and care homes .. I thought that was last year .. if you see a link please post it .


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https://assets.publishing.service.go...AL.pdf#page=20

A load of data on there, though its only up to december. I expect more reports are due on it now as obviously, since september the 'school spread' will have gone down somewhat given less in school. Page 21, relevant data, but the whole thing is very interesting really.

Ontop of this, its kind of common sense that hospitals/care homes would be massive drivers, given how full they are, and the demographics that are most likely to be there to start with.

Hell, at 'normal times' our A&Es here are packed as full as bloody nightclubs, though significantly less fun!