[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Cherie

[Nicky91]

good, back on topic


umm you can be positive about hospitalisations, ICU numbers decreasing fair enough


but i'm only pointing out the new cases numbers also remain important


we in NL got well over 7k now, yes also thx to schools probably, and also i blame it on anti-lockdown protests some of those who also do not wear face masks

but no reason for panic i think if we just speed up vaccinations now

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Joke

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

don't quote members who i have on ignore pls otherwise i still see their posts

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Originally Posted by Cherie

Originally Posted by AnnieK

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I have Mr Spocks expression on my face right now

[parmnion]

Nicky bum fluff...am I on ignore?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The rate being stable, as it has been, may mean that schools returning has so far added

around ten per cent to daily case numbers. Or perhaps instead the effects of people

drifting back to the office and going to see families post-vaccination are increasing. It is

unclear. Case numbers are now vastly lower than they were in early January and

continue to drift further down. As the weather warms up and as the effects of ever-more

vaccinations kick in, that rate of decline is likely to accelerate. The relaxations of 29

March and Step 2 on 12 April will doubtless each see some impact on R.



But with around 60 per cent of us now having some protection, via vaccination or past

infection, there is only much more modest scope for the virus to spread. Should the

current wave on the Continent produce some unexpected vaccine escape variant,

things may change. But as things stand in the UK, cases are still contracting and there

is as yet nothing in the data to suggest they will not continue to do so.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-reason-panic/

Has the rate gone up 10% ??

As if it was going DOWN rather quickly but now it’s UP 10% doesn’t that suggest a far higher increase rate than just 10% ?


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[arista]

The 14 Nations with High Covid Deaths


547,630 USA deaths
303,462 Brazil deaths
200,211 Mexico deaths
160,949 India deaths
126,755 United Kingdom deaths
107,256 Italy deaths
95,410 Russia deaths
94,432 France deaths
75,719 Germany deaths
75,010 Spain deaths
62,519 Colombia deaths
62,223 Iran deaths
55,092 Argentina deaths
52,535 South Africa deaths




https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

The 14 Nations with High Covid Deaths


547,630 USA deaths
303,462 Brazil deaths
200,211 Mexico deaths
160,949 India deaths
126,755 United Kingdom deaths
107,256 Italy deaths
95,410 Russia deaths
94,432 France deaths
75,719 Germany deaths
75,010 Spain deaths
62,519 Colombia deaths
62,223 Iran deaths
55,092 Argentina deaths
52,535 South Africa deaths




https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

meaningless stats as no one country adopts the same way to record and the tinpot ones are not to be trusted

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

meaningless stats as no one country adopts the same way to record and the tinpot ones are not to be trusted

Germany has over taken Spain? somethings not right with these figures

[Zizu]

What’s the deal with over 70’s ( so far ) being given a third Covid 19 jab in September- to boost their immunity !?!?

After just 6 or 7 months they need boosting ?

Where does that leave the rest of us under 70s ??

I thought the first jab gave around 70%+ and more or less ensure you won’t die or need ventilation then the second jab pushed up the % to 85 or 90% - until next year ??

I’m confused ..



Edit

Sky News discussing this now ..

The suggestion is that the government are expecting/preparing for a THIRD wave in September ..

France currently getting 42,000 new cases per day , Germany 22,000 .


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[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

What’s the deal with over 70’s ( so far ) being given a third Covid 19 jab in September- to boost their immunity !?!?

After just 6 or 7 months they need boosting ?

Where does that leave the rest of us under 70s ??

I thought the first jab gave around 70%+ and more or less ensure you won’t die or need ventilation then the second jab pushed up the % to 85 or 90% - until next year ??

I’m confused ..



Edit

Sky News discussing this now ..

The suggestion is that the government are expecting/preparing for a THIRD wave in September ..

France currently getting 42,000 new cases per day , Germany 22,000 .


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A further booster shot has been talked about pretty much since they first started vaccination, expect it will be rolls out further once the over 70s are done?

[Nicky91]

so what Germany does well, the public know better they don't need a lockdown anymore

so the surge in new cases is their karma, for wanting more irrelevant freedom

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

A further booster shot has been talked about pretty much since they first started vaccination, expect it will be rolls out further once the over 70s are done?

That was muted as a jab that will have been modified to combat any new strains though ...

Just saying they will be getting a third booster jab kinda sounds like the first two are running out of effectiveness after just 6 or 7 months ..


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That was muted as a jab that will have been modified to combat any new strains though ...

Just saying they will be getting a third booster jab kinda sounds like the first two are running out of effectiveness after just 6 or 7 months ..


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Think it was always going to be tweaked to encompass new variants

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That was muted as a jab that will have been modified to combat any new strains though ...

Just saying they will be getting a third booster jab kinda sounds like the first two are running out of effectiveness after just 6 or 7 months ..


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they dont know how long the vaccine will be effective for, how could they?

They are preparing for the eventuality that a booster is needed, i can't believe you are seriously moaning about that

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Germany has over taken Spain? somethings not right with these figures

spain gave up reporting accurate figures by about May last year. Tourism trumps accuracy

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they dont know how long the vaccine will be effective for, how could they?

They are preparing for the eventuality that a booster is needed, i can't believe you are seriously moaning about that

I understood it that it will also be tweaked slightly to ensure it catches any variants in the virus plus they are readying themselves for winter. It may then become annual like the flu jab. Nothing to worry about or even that unusual with vaccines.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I understood it that it will also be tweaked slightly to ensure it catches any variants in the virus plus they are readying themselves for winter. It may then become annual like the flu jab. Nothing to worry about or even that unusual with vaccines.

there is no actual evidence yet that the vaccines don't work against the latest strains, only a "they might not be as effective", which doesnt really mean anything. If the vaccine still protects against serious illness, everything will be fine.

I think they are considering all eventualities, which i am very happy about

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they dont know how long the vaccine will be effective for, how could they?

They are preparing for the eventuality that a booster is needed, i can't believe you are seriously moaning about that

It’s hardly moaning ... I was more querying the terminology if anything - if they’d said they would be getting a modified jab to counteract the new wave of strains I wouldn’t have commented..

Just saying they’re gonna start giving a THIRD jab kinda unsettled me as it suggests the two won’t be enough

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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I understood it that it will also be tweaked slightly to ensure it catches any variants in the virus plus they are readying themselves for winter. It may then become annual like the flu jab. Nothing to worry about or even that unusual with vaccines.

Well that’s a more acceptable explanation


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