[Nicky91]

Netherlands: 1.000 of vaccine appointments of people below 60's have been cancelled for time being, because of the dangers of blood clots

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: amsterdam mayor Femke Halsema wants terraces, bars to be reopened


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femke_Halsema

she also said in a late night talk show over here last night, she would still take the AZ vaccine, saying ''not afraid of a blood clot risk''

[LeatherTrumpet]

she sounds a good sensible woman, and i bet she has support?

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: we are sending all vaccine doses to Bulgaria since they can use them more than us

not all elderly are vaccinated here but we don't care, then we have to keep them locked up

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Netherlands: we are sending all vaccine doses to Bulgaria since they can use them more than us

not all elderly are vaccinated here but we don't care, then we have to keep them locked up

Yes Good Move

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Good Move

of pfizer that is


so we halt AZ vaccine, and we give pfizer away for free


so no more vaccinating being done for time being now here

[Nicky91]

as for terraces, maybe its better they reopen, otherwise youth go into parks very close to each other within 1.5 metres


i find this whole vaccine thing happening way too fast anyway, i agree with our RIVM what they say they should study the vaccines some more, they don't trust the EMA's reviewing that much now


but yeah if majority of youth want things reopened or been given some ''hope'' well i'd say reopen some things, maybe new cases surge will go up but at least then you've listened to the people and its then the public's own fault



i don't know what goes wrong here, what isn't very much a problem in UK, they should look into that more

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

of pfizer that is


so we halt AZ vaccine, and we give pfizer away for free


so no more vaccinating being done for time being now here

Why are you guys not using Pfizer?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Why are you guys not using Pfizer?

Someone once took a dose of Pfizer and then less than 30 minutes later, they stubbed their toe REALLY badly. Like the nail was bleeding and everything, Cherie! So they were going to throw all of the Pfizer into the sea but instead they're giving it away as charity because people living in poverty probably don't even care about stubbed toes idk.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Why are you guys not using Pfizer?

since we want to help out the poorer countries

and Bulgaria is worse off than ourselves with even less vaccinations done but they rely more on support from other countries since they cannot afford vaccine themselves


unlike Hungary whom are buying in loads of vaccine doses themselves, one thing i must say Orban does quite well (not a fan of that dictator but it must be mentioned)

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Someone once took a dose of Pfizer and then less than 30 minutes later, they stubbed their toe REALLY badly. Like the nail was bleeding and everything, Cherie! So they were going to throw all of the Pfizer into the sea but instead they're giving it away as charity because people living in poverty probably don't even care about stubbed toes idk.

No

pfizer is ok, not heard many complaints about that one

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

No

pfizer is ok, not heard many complaints about that one

You just said you had stopped vaccinating full stop

So you are continuing to vaccinate with Pfizer or no?

[Cherie]

With AZ I cant figure out if other Pharma are unhappy as they are rolling out at cost while Pfizer, Moderna etc is not, or a scapegoat for slow rollout, the EMA should be disbanded at this stage, if EU countries are going to pick and choose when they follow recommendation

[bitontheslide]

apparently the UK ploughed millions of pounds into improving the netherlands AZ plant, so if the EU now stop them exporting there is going to be a lot of trouble

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

With AZ I cant figure out if other Pharma are unhappy as they are rolling out at cost while Pfizer, Moderna etc is not, or a scapegoat for slow rollout, the EMA should be disbanded at this stage, if EU countries are going to pick and choose when they follow recommendation

I can't see it being the former, the scientific breakthroughs that are going to come from the mRNA research and success of Pfizer/Moderna is going to be a Pharma gold rush over the next few decades... the technology is worth infinitely more than the actual vaccine. It's an absolutely massive medical breakthrough.

[Nicky91]

i'd say the blame is on EMA, as they were supposed to give honest and good reviews on the vaccines

they said AZ was ''safe'' and countries like Netherlands, Germany started using them again after that ''good review'' and still we got again under 65 and under 60 respectively with nasty side effects, some even fatal

EU relies on the EMA's expert advice/reviewers so the blame lies there


or not properly been cooled or been handled upon delivery to vaccination posts since here in netherlands what i know, some deliver them in pizza boxes or fastfood boxes

[bitontheslide]

people are just not viewing the vaccination programme with any type of perspective, and the singling out of AZ for any attack they can think of is absurd. I would be the first to join in if i thought the concerns were in any way valid, but they just aren't and all the political bods in the EU know this.

[Nicky91]

yes good move

[Vanessa]

All medicines have risks.
I'll take my chances, i want my life back.

[Vanessa]

If the EU prefers they can use other vaccines.
But they need to vaccinate, it's the only way to control the virus.
Because you can't lockdown forever.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

If the EU prefers they can use other vaccines.
But they need to vaccinate, it's the only way to control the virus.
Because you can't lockdown forever.

Today France and Italy start their new Lockdowns.

If the Deadly China Covid-19
has a hold over a nation
you can not blame their Lockdowns
to be fair.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: some of the bigger cities want their terraces reopened


also mayor Aboutaleb (rotterdam) mayor Van Zanen (The Hague) mayor Dijksma (Utrecht) support their amsterdam colleague Halsema


more to stop illegal socializing in parks, and that they can socialize in a normal, proper way within covid guidelines and within 1.5 metres apart from each other

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

7.682 new cases (more or less flattening down around, 7.225 average of new cases this whole week, one week earlier average of 7.221)

243 new hospitalisations 33 less than yesterday (2.348 in total 18 more than yesterdays total 2.330)

734 in total on ICU now (29 more than yesterdays total 705)

31 new deaths

[arista]

Saturday 3/4/21

Today 10 Deaths
3,423 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,536

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517


126,826 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Note for Tomorrow numbers
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...-2021-schedule

Northern Ireland: no cases and deaths data on 4 April

Wales: no data on 2 April and 4 April
(note: cases and deaths data released on 5 April
and 6 April will both cover 48 hour periods)