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9 Have Died
9,055 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
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Patients on ventilation
Latest available
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127,926 Total UK Deaths


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Wednesday 9/6/21

6 Died
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Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,024

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
154


127,860 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Note The Total Deaths has come down
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9 Have Died
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Patients on ventilation
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127,926 Total UK Deaths


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Some good news ... maybe .

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A new drug to treat COVID has been described as "very exciting" in its ability to lessen the effects of the virus in seriously ill people.

It uses a therapy called monoclonal antibodies - artificially manufactured proteins that prevent the virus attacking the body.

What are monoclonal antibodies?

Monoclonal antibodies have been around for a while, used to treat other diseases like cancer.

Once introduced to the body, they stick to antigens - proteins on the outside of a cell, bacteria or other molecular structure like a virus, capable of causing disease.


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Week on week

Infections up 20%
Hospitalisations up 10%
Patients on ventilators up 33% !!

( rough % - calculator not used )


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Sky News

A new drug to treat COVID has been described as "very exciting" in its ability to lessen the effects of the virus in seriously ill people.

It uses a therapy called monoclonal antibodies - artificially manufactured proteins that prevent the virus attacking the body.

What are monoclonal antibodies?

Monoclonal antibodies have been around for a while, used to treat other diseases like cancer.

Once introduced to the body, they stick to antigens - proteins on the outside of a cell, bacteria or other molecular structure like a virus, capable of causing disease.

Yes the mix used on Trump
that fixed his Covid-19
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Weds 16/6/16

9 Have Died
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Patients in hospital
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Patients on ventilation
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127,926 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Deaths are staying low, which is brilliant news.
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Deaths are staying low, which is brilliant news.

Guess that’s the key issue ... unless we’re left with hundreds of thousands of long Covid victims living with the effects for years to come .


Incidentally the ‘death’ figures we refer to are those who so sadly die within 28 days ..

What are the stats for all the Covid deaths including those longer than 28 days .

These poor people are just as important surely .


Why are we only counting the ones that die within 28 days anyways - sounds ludicrous tbh


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MPs have voted 461 to 60 to extend regulations that delay the easing of coronavirus restrictions in England from 21 June to 19 July

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Of course Labour and Conservative
Voted for it.

No way could a some Conservatives stop it
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Guess that’s the key issue ... unless we’re left with hundreds of thousands of long Covid victims living with the effects for years to come .
I mean... there is increasing evidence that the vast majority of "long covid" doesn't actually exist and/or is partially psychosomatic. Did you know that it's reported far more often in the UK than anywhere else in the world - and there are large crossovers with CFS/ME?


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Incidentally the ‘death’ figures we refer to are those who so sadly die within 28 days ..

What are the stats for all the Covid deaths including those longer than 28 days .

These poor people are just as important surely .


Why are we only counting the ones that die within 28 days anyways - sounds ludicrous tbh
Because from test to death is almost always faster than 28 days, if there is going to be a death. A very small number may hold out longer, but that number will be much smaller than the number that artificially inflates deaths in the UK (that any death after a positive test counts, so some of those deaths will actually NOT be from Covid).
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Ch4HDnews reports on India
the new Black Fungus disease is getting worse.

They have a Lack of Anti Fungal drugs
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I mean... there is increasing evidence that the vast majority of "long covid" doesn't actually exist and/or is partially psychosomatic. Did you know that it's reported far more often in the UK than anywhere else in the world - and there are large crossovers with CFS/ME?




Because from test to death is almost always faster than 28 days, if there is going to be a death. A very small number may hold out longer, but that number will be much smaller than the number that artificially inflates deaths in the UK (that any death after a positive test counts, so some of those deaths will actually NOT be from Covid).

Interesting , thanks ..

I just presumed there’d be far more numbers than we know about given they catch Covid , then get poorly and then around day ten - sometimes need hospitalisation for a while and then maybe move onto ventilation for quite some time ??

How does all that fit into 28 days ?


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Interesting , thanks ..

I just presumed there’d be far more numbers than we know about given they catch Covid , then get poorly and then around day ten - sometimes need hospitalisation for a while and then maybe move onto ventilation for quite some time ??

How does all that fit into 28 days ?


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I think things tend to progress to the ventilator stage relatively quickly, if they're going to get that bad at all. That's based on what I remember them saying way back in the first wave though.
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[Covid: Ryanair and Manchester Airports Group
take legal action over travel traffic light system]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57505736


[Ryanair and the owner of Manchester, London Stansted
and East Midlands airports are to launch
a legal challenge against the government
over the travel traffic light system.
They call for more transparency about
how the government decides which countries qualify
for the green list of safe places to visit amid the pandemic.

The BBC understands it has the backing
of other major UK airlines.
Ministers say the system
"cautiously manages the risk of new variants".

The traffic light system rates countries green,
amber or red based on their Covid risk.

Travellers to countries rated green will
not need to isolate on their return,
but they will need to take a Covid test before and after their trip.

Arrivals from amber countries will need
to quarantine, while red-list countries have
the strictest rules, with only UK or Irish nationals,
or UK residents, allowed to return - and they must
pay for a 10-day stay in a government quarantine hotel.]

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if business can operate effectively with most employees working from home, it saves them a shed load in overheads, i'm sure they will be all for that
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A lot of my client's at work have told us they have no plans to return to the office. Productivity and job satisfaction is up, absence due to sickness and lateness is down, profit is up due to lower overheads so I can see why for some companies it would be a bonus to retain WFH for a long time.

However, it's not for everyone. I don't like working at home, I don't personally think I'm anywhere near as productive and I miss the interaction with colleagues massively but it would be nice to have the choice if my son was sick say or during holidays. He's at an age where he entertains himself and doesn't need looking after but is too young to be left alone for the whole day so the option would be good.

I don't think it should be a forced thing by the Gov onto businesses though, it should be looked at on a case by case basis and the decision taken in the interests of the company and its employees.
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It seems to be talking about enshrining the “right” to request to WFH in law, and presumably stops companies from refusing it without a good reason.

The company I work for has already decided to go this route voluntarily and has made it permanent that people can choose to work from home whenever we want. It was already part of my contract from the start pre-Covid but I was a special boy back then . It’s basically just my arrangement expanded out for everyone.

Interestingly enough though, most people CHOOSE to be in the office about 50% of the time, Sinai don’t think it’s going to lead to dead cities and everyone working from home all the time.

I’d go in more and probably will at some point. Currently limited by childcare.
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A lot of my client's at work have told us they have no plans to return to the office. Productivity and job satisfaction is up, absence due to sickness and lateness is down, profit is up due to lower overheads so I can see why for some companies it would be a bonus to retain WFH for a long time.
I can definitely see why sickness leave is down. Sometimes if you’re just feeling “a bit off” you don’t feel at all up to getting showered, dressed, and out to sit at a desk all day so would call in sick - but you’re not SICK sick, just a bit run down, and could still happily plonk in the couch with a laptop and get in with a few things. I think I’d have to be properly bedridden to call in sick these days… otherwise I’d just let them know I’m not 100% so they know to expect a slower pace than usual. Then sit on here all day arguing about Meghan Markle and answering the occasional email and Teams message.

…….like most days…….

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I can definitely see why sickness leave is down. Sometimes if you’re just feeling “a bit off” you don’t feel at all up to getting showered, dressed, and out to sit at a desk all day so would call in sick - but you’re not SICK sick, just a bit run down, and could still happily plonk in the couch with a laptop and get in with a few things. I think I’d have to be properly bedridden to call in sick these days… otherwise I’d just let them know I’m not 100% so they know to expect a slower pace than usual. Then sit on here all day arguing about Meghan Markle and answering the occasional email and Teams message.

…….like most days…….

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…it was always often the thing anyway …(…depending on the job obviously…)…that people were genuinely not feeling great so would arrange to go home…but would look at what they could do from home because it’s more at an own pace that fits with how they’re feeling and their energy levels …‘I’ll go and work from home today or I’ll stay and work from home today…’…was always a thing for those were it was a feasible option…also because if full salary was paid for sickness, some always felt that it was a fair compromise to do what their illness allowed…

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