[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It seems to be talking about enshrining the “right” to request to WFH in law, and presumably stops companies from refusing it without a good reason.

The company I work for has already decided to go this route voluntarily and has made it permanent that people can choose to work from home whenever we want. It was already part of my contract from the start pre-Covid but I was a special boy back then . It’s basically just my arrangement expanded out for everyone.

Interestingly enough though, most people CHOOSE to be in the office about 50% of the time, Sinai don’t think it’s going to lead to dead cities and everyone working from home all the time.

I’d go in more and probably will at some point. Currently limited by childcare.

Make no difference to me I have worked from home since my youngest son was born and he is 22...so I think I trump your special boy status

I just find it odd as last August Bojo couldn't wait for people to get back to the office, I think it is a red herring myself

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it was always often the thing anyway …(…depending on the job obviously…)…that people were genuinely not feeling great so would arrange to go home…but what look at what they could do from home because it’s more at an own pace …‘I’ll go and work from home today or I’ll stay and work from home today…’…was always a thing for those were it was a feasible option…also because if full salary was paid for sickness, some always felt that it was a fair compromise to do what their illness allowed…

I dunno, a lot of companies weaponise sick leave these days, making threats and "doing investigations" if someone takes "too much", or simply keeping a log to use against people later at annual reviews or when they have other requests of their employer.

My company would never, of course, because we have all sorts of little badges and logos at the bottom of our emails to prove that we're super-nice and ethical and whatnot.

Working from home would indeed always have been an option but it'sbeen changed more so that you don't even need to give any reasoning at all, you can just decide "nah" and log in from home, whenever.

It would actually save the company quite a bit of money to go fully online and not keep physical office spaces at all, we really don't NEED them, but have found that people do want the option and like to be there in person to varying degrees. A few people still go in as often as is permitted by whatever-current-covid-says and I imagine will be in the office most of the time if things ever return to any sort of normality .

Personally if childcare wasn't a factor and it was purely my choice, I'd probably go in 1 or 2 days a week. I might start going in for half-days next year when the older one starts high school, as they'll both be out earlier so I can get there for 9 then just take my lunch hour at like 2 and come home.

I'd probably be less inclined to sit here tapping on TiBB if there were other people around .

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I just find it odd as last August Bojo couldn't wait for people to get back to the office, I think it is a red herring myself

That's because they wanted people in the cities to keep the highstreet economy going. That's dead in the water now and they're introducing new taxes on online retail, which I think is probably just the start of them finally getting around to monetizing online business, so they're less bothered about people being physically in towns and cities so long as they're on the Digital Highstreet .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

That's because they wanted people in the cities to keep the highstreet economy going. That's dead in the water now and they're introducing new taxes on online retail, which I think is probably just the start of them finally getting around to monetizing online business, so they're less bothered about people being physically in towns and cities so long as they're on the Digital Highstreet .

still a lot of jobs depend on people working in towns and cities

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I dunno, a lot of companies weaponise sick leave these days, making threats and "doing investigations" if someone takes "too much", or simply keeping a log to use against people later at annual reviews or when they have other requests of their employer.

My company would never, of course, because we have all sorts of little badges and logos at the bottom of our emails to prove that we're super-nice and ethical and whatnot.

Working from home would indeed always have been an option but it'sbeen changed more so that you don't even need to give any reasoning at all, you can just decide "nah" and log in from home, whenever.

It would actually save the company quite a bit of money to go fully online and not keep physical office spaces at all, we really don't NEED them, but have found that people do want the option and like to be there in person to varying degrees. A few people still go in as often as is permitted by whatever-current-covid-says and I imagine will be in the office most of the time if things ever return to any sort of normality .

Personally if childcare wasn't a factor and it was purely my choice, I'd probably go in 1 or 2 days a week. I might start going in for half-days next year when the older one starts high school, as they'll both be out earlier so I can get there for 9 then just take my lunch hour at like 2 and come home.

I'd probably be less inclined to sit here tapping on TiBB if there were other people around .

…yeah we’re super nice as well……as we’re in a caring/nurturing environment and definitely not a profit marking one …so I didn’t really think about ‘investigating’ ….and obviously it’s not a workplace that working from home is as feasible because it’s workplace based ..but planning time etc/non classroom time could be…some have always practised that in the past before COVID so the interruptions aren’t there etc….as I say, it depends on the job but yeah, also on the trust levels of employers as well …all quite a few levels to it….it’s nice to see that you seem really in tune with your job and loving it……

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

still a lot of jobs depend on people working in towns and cities

They're needed as drones for the Amazon hive, Cherie. Don't you want the Amazon honey? DON'T YOU WANT THE HONEY??

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah we’re super nice as well……as we’re in a caring/nurturing environment and definitely not a profit marking one …so I didn’t really think about ‘investigating’ ….and obviously it’s not a workplace that working from home is as feasible because it’s workplace based ..but planning time etc/non classroom time could be…some have always practised that in the past before COVID so the interruptions aren’t there etc….as I say, it depends on the job but yeah, also on the trust levels of employers as well …all quite a few levels to it….it’s nice to see that you seem really in tune with your job and loving it……

I'm just still so grateful for the move to be honest Ammi. My old place of employment started automatic disciplinary procedures if you were off for any reason more than twice in 6 months. And the place I was before that (the only other full-time employment I've ever been in) was fine about time off - but I was working 45 hour weeks on a 0-hour contract so didn't get paid if I wasn't there.

Having people who genuinely care about my health and wellbeing is still a novelty, 2 years in .

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm just still so grateful for the move to be honest Ammi. My old place of employment started automatic disciplinary procedures if you were off for any reason more than twice in 6 months. And the place I was before that (the only other full-time employment I've ever been in) was fine about time off - but I was working 45 hour weeks on a 0-hour contract so didn't get paid if I wasn't there.

Having people who genuinely care about my health and wellbeing is still a novelty, 2 years in .

…yeah, I’ve lived with that for most of my working life, that nurturing environment that is obviously created for the children but it also extends to staff as well and also to parents…although, I know that all education establishments aren’t the same either and for some education staff, that isn’t the experience they have….how you’ve found that excellent fit with your job now also and how you’re feeling your worth in terms of care is something that will extend to and benefit all around you …..at least what I will say with your previous job…?…is that you thrived anyway in spite of…(…I know there would have been many times when you didn’t feel as though you were…)…but you did and that’s all part of how you’ve made this change happen…I really am thrilled for you…(…and Mrs TS and the little TS ladies….oh and puppy as well…….)……

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if business can operate effectively with most employees working from home, it saves them a shed load in overheads, i'm sure they will be all for that

Yes Mega Savings

[Strictly Jake]

I've gone into isolation. There are covid cases at my daughter's school and today she has a really nasty cough and runny nose. So taken her for a PCR test before bless her she's only 5 she was screaming at me saying daddy please don't do this I wanna go home it was awful. I got one done too as still got a tickly cough so gonna isolate for the weekend to see where things lie

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

I've gone into isolation. There are covid cases at my daughter's school and today she has a really nasty cough and runny nose. So taken her for a PCR test before bless her she's only 5 she was screaming at me saying daddy please don't do this I wanna go home it was awful. I got one done too as still got a tickly cough so gonna isolate for the weekend to see where things lie

Hope you're all ok Jake. Its the sensible step to take at the moment. She will have forgotten it soon enough but its just awful to watch your kids going through something so traumatic Take care

[arista]

The Government is in talks
with Andrew Lloyd Webber
letting him have a Pilot show
and not get arrested

Times Radio DAB Live


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...inderella.html

[arista]

[Holidays in Europe could be back
ON for double-jabbed Brits:
Minister Jesse Norman confirms the Government IS looking
at allowing fully vaccinated travellers to skip quarantine
after visiting amber list countries
Ministers are reportedly looking at new rules
which will allow quarantine-free travel
from amber-list countries
Currently, those who travel back from
amber list countries, such as Greece,
have to self-isolate on their return
But, according to the Telegraph, under a new
system double-jabbed Britons will no longer
have to self-isolate
It comes as US chief medical advisor says
Britons might be able to travel more freely
to US by end of summer
Dr Anthony Fauci claimed Britain could
find itself in a 'very favourable position'
thanks to the June 21 delay]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rantining.html

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

I've gone into isolation. There are covid cases at my daughter's school and today she has a really nasty cough and runny nose. So taken her for a PCR test before bless her she's only 5 she was screaming at me saying daddy please don't do this I wanna go home it was awful. I got one done too as still got a tickly cough so gonna isolate for the weekend to see where things lie

……it’s horrid I know, Jake…but it’ll sadly be a future that our children will become familiar with and hopefully…(…for most..)…the fear will fade…

[Nicky91]

Japan: no longer in state of emergency, PM Suga said this


number of cases decreases a lot, and 15% of all Japanese people has at least one dose

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

[Holidays in Europe could be back
ON for double-jabbed Brits:
Minister Jesse Norman confirms the Government IS looking
at allowing fully vaccinated travellers to skip quarantine
after visiting amber list countries
Ministers are reportedly looking at new rules
which will allow quarantine-free travel
from amber-list countries
Currently, those who travel back from
amber list countries, such as Greece,
have to self-isolate on their return
But, according to the Telegraph, under a new
system double-jabbed Britons will no longer
have to self-isolate
It comes as US chief medical advisor says
Britons might be able to travel more freely
to US by end of summer
Dr Anthony Fauci claimed Britain could
find itself in a 'very favourable position'
thanks to the June 21 delay]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rantining.html

nicely timed, this will bump up the young getting jabs who might have been reluctant

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

nicely timed, this will bump up the young getting jabs who might have been reluctant

i still stick to my opinion, that those who socialize most now should have priority for the vaccine (this for me still feels the way to ''kill'' covid to give it less and less room to spread more easily)

also it shouldn't become a compulsory like they in Russia want to do now for bosses to order employees to vaccinate

i myself really don't want it, but i'll happily stick to distancing rules if i go out (on holiday for example)



as for Delta variant, idk why this one is more ''dangerous'' since symptoms are like a regular cold from what i read, i thought SA variant was more dangerous symptoms wise, stomach pains etc

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: Caribbean island Sint-Maarten will still receive 19 million euro of corona aidpackage

twice was denied by our parliament


Sint-Maarten are independent within the kingdom, it first did not receive the support because the island had filed a complaint against Netherlands for racism at the UN because of their failing government issues

because they handled the case quite well now, it is very likely they will receive support now after all

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i still stick to my opinion, that those who socialize most now should have priority for the vaccine (this for me still feels the way to ''kill'' covid to give it less and less room to spread more easily)

also it shouldn't become a compulsory like they in Russia want to do now for bosses to order employees to vaccinate

i myself really don't want it, but i'll happily stick to distancing rules if i go out (on holiday for example)



as for Delta variant, idk why this one is more ''dangerous'' since symptoms are like a regular cold from what i read, i thought SA variant was more dangerous symptoms wise, stomach pains etc

I wasn't thinking of you at all Nicky as you said you are never going abroad again, and it is also a UK thing so not sure why you thought I was talking about you

It was more for young people who want to travel I was referring to

I dont think it has been suggested Delta is more dangerous just more transmissible and they thought it might evade the vaccine but doesn't look like that is the case

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

I've gone into isolation. There are covid cases at my daughter's school and today she has a really nasty cough and runny nose. So taken her for a PCR test before bless her she's only 5 she was screaming at me saying daddy please don't do this I wanna go home it was awful. I got one done too as still got a tickly cough so gonna isolate for the weekend to see where things lie

Hope it comes back negative for both of you

[arista]

Thursday 17/6/21

19 have Died.
11,007 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,227

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
208


127,945 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Thursday 10/6/21

7 Died
7,393 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,048

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
158


127,876 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Originally Posted by arista

Thursday 17/6/21

19 have Died.
11,007 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,227

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
208


127,945 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Oop

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Oop

Yes the Delta Variant
is spreading Fast, again.

[bitontheslide]

yes, thats more of a significant increase in deaths, but without the vaccination program we would probably be up to 1000 a day

[Strictly Jake]

Originally Posted by arista

Thursday 17/6/21

19 have Died.
11,007 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,227

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
208


127,945 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Yeah it's going up scarily fast. Should have seen how busy it was at the Covid centre today!!