[LeatherTrumpet]

The number of people dying with flu and pneumonia on their death certificate in England and Wales is now 10 times higher than those with Covid, figures show.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

They’re not high but they have increased over time… so they’re not flat.

To be honest though, anything under 50 isn’t beyond the scope of what you would expect with a new respiratory virus on the scene permanently - would put respiratory deaths at about 1/3 higher than they were pre-Covid.

Yes, I agree. Hopefully they won't go higher than that.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The number of people dying with flu and pneumonia on their death certificate in England and Wales is now 10 times higher than those with Covid, figures show.

Doesn’t sound right tbh, unless this is about last weeks figures. Normal deaths per day for flu/pneumonia in the UK would be about 90 a day, so for this to be true Covid deaths would have to be under 10/day.

Frankly if they’re saying that pneumonia deaths are at 200+ a day… they’re covering up Covid deaths in the flu/pneumonia figures … …

[Nicky91]

am happy regarding my nation, as for the numbers


as for the Delta variant, i don't panic about that one, no one should tbh


tbh the majority of those are also in areas where there are still the so called Red Zones whom are decreasing by the day those zones into yellow and then grey


as for holidaygoers, ur crazy and very selfish if you go on holiday right now in another country

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if by flat they mean trending upward, then i guess it could be called flat

Thats how Beth Rugby reported it...I would imagine in comparison to deaths from other causes they are flat!

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Thats how Beth Rugby reported it...I would imagine in comparison to deaths from other causes they are flat!

Flat is flat as in static… no change… not increasing. It’s not about comparison to anything else. The numbers are LOW in comparison to other causes, but they are increasing, so there’s no way to describe them as “flat”.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think I’m going to wait for the Delta+ Pro to be honest; it’ll probably release at around the same price and it has even faster load times.

That's not as daft an idea as you think.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Thats how Beth Rugby reported it...I would imagine in comparison to deaths from other causes they are flat!

they will have some threshold and if the increase is under that then it will be considered flat. I just think that by the time september hits, 6 weeks after restrictions have ended, there is going to be quite a raised flat

[arista]

[17:49

Barnie Choudhury, from Eastern Eye, asks what is specifically
being done to increase vaccine uptake in communities
like the Pakistani and Bangladeshi sections of the country.

Mr Zahawi gives a number of examples of schemes to
get groups which are not taking up vaccine offers
to increase their uptake rate.
He talks about pop up events in Brent mosque,
an event for the Haredi Hasidic Jews in
Hackney with Diane Abbott.
The minister mentions how important it is to
"empower" community figures that
people trust - like members who are paramedics.

Dr Nikki Kanani highlights the importance
of community media organisations in helping
the vaccine rollout continue.]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-new...rence-12337263


Terrible the amount of Fake Data out there.

[bitontheslide]

The Queen referred to Health Secretary Matt Hancock as "poor man" at a meeting with Boris Johnson.

"I've just been talking to your secretary of state for health, poor man. He came for Privy Council," she told the prime minister.

"He's full of...", she added. "Full of beans?", offered Mr Johnson.

[arista]

Tomorrow we get a Travel Update
Ch4HDnews confirmed,

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think I’m going to wait for the Delta+ Pro to be honest; it’ll probably release at around the same price and it has even faster load times.

Maybe not such a good idea ...




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[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Maybe not such a good idea ...




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in that time 210,000 people have died in the UK of OTHER STUFF

1400 people die every day in the UK

[bitontheslide]

those are weighted figures, because we know that the vaccine has stopped thousands of people being hospitalised, and that is the important figure, not the ones that are outliers and are being highlighted above

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

in that time 210,000 people have died in the UK of OTHER STUFF

1400 people die every day in the UK[/SIZE]

My point was that over 30% of the latest Delta deaths were fully vaccinated for over 2 weeks ...

The ‘word’ not too long ago was that being fully vaccinated equated to not getting seriously poorly and certainly not dying


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[arista]

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[arista]

Transport Secretary may be in Parliament First.

[Cherie]

Can't see countries like Spain and Portugal taking Angela's suggestion on board, Germany is not reliant on tourism for the bulk of it's economy

Angela had no problem turning up for the G7

[bitontheslide]

There is so much self interest going on, i can understand it, but it's pretty blatant

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Can't see countries like Spain and Portugal taking Angela's suggestion on board, Germany is not reliant on tourism for the bulk of it's economy

Angela had no problem turning up for the G7

Yes German Leader
has got nasty
saying all British must be Quarantined

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes German Leader
has got nasty
saying all British must be Quarantined

yeah so


the Delta variant is currently most awful in UK, they are correct to ask for all british to be quarantined

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yeah so


the Delta variant is currently most awful in UK, they are correct to ask for all british to be quarantined

its worse in Portugal? but she is putting no block on that country, maybe the virus recognises EU borders

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yeah so


the Delta variant is currently most awful in UK, they are correct to ask for all british to be quarantined

I'd agree if it wasn't already out in the world, but... it is. It's already active in every country so quarantining isn't going to make any difference. I mean, it didn't even originate in the UK.

That said I think international travel in general is opening up far too early; it should be the LAST thing to return, between countries that have already got to the point of lifting all restrictions (which should be 3 weeks after the point of full vaccine roll-out completion, not some arbitrary date).