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Old 30-07-2021, 01:42 PM #7251
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How do you get the paper version?
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How did you go about it incidentally?


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you just get it emailed to you, it's a pdf
No you get a letter posted in a nice blue NHS envelope

Its different to what Zizu posted, and has no expiry on it
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…you’ve got yours ok, Zizu…?…

Yeah but it expires on the 24th Aug 2021 which isn’t much use in the grand scheme of things


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They have always said that the vaccines are 90% effective in preventing hospitalisation and > 98% in preventing death. No vaccine is ever 100% effective

Yes whilst that’s true , my point though is - why are they omitting the most important details from the warning .. just seems odd .

Surely if they really want people to be more careful they should add that you can still get extremely poorly and die EVEN if you have had both jabs .


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thats why its better on the app

Some people / places apparently won’t accept a quick look at your mobile though that’s where the paper copy comes in .

Plus there can be technical issues with an app / website or dead phone battery


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I have just ordered a paper copy

Im going to the football tomorrow (23,500 capacity) and on my ticket it states that i dont need a lateral test but its good practice to do one - on Sunday when I went they let me and the boy in a side door as we get hospitality so i did one on Sunday but wont tomoz)
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Friday 30/7/21

68 have Died
29,622 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,916


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
869


129,583 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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Friday 23/7/21

64 have Died
36,389 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,001

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
699


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68 have Died
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Patients on ventilation
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Sadly many Pregnant women
having babies did not have the Vaccine
so that's why Covid infections
have effected them so bad.

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due to so many Drivers at the biggest Supplier
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Meanwhile
in USA like in the UK
those unvaccinated
are the one's Dying fast in Hospital

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New NHS data suggests 23% of people with Covid infections in hospital were admitted for other reasons.

Hospitals in England have released more detail than usual about the number of Covid patients in their care.

The government denies NHS pressures had previously been overstated by counting all patients testing positive.

All patients are routinely tested for Covid upon admission, whatever their reason for coming to hospital.

The Department for Health and Social Care said this measure was still "the most important" because of the impact Covid-positive patients have on NHS capacity and workforce pressure.

This allows hospitals to provide the most appropriate care and use the right infection control measures to help stop the spread of the virus.

Patients with Covid should be treated away from non-infected patients.

But critics say until now, published hospital data may not have reflected the true toll of Covid on the NHS.

The government says the new data will help scientists to track to what extent vaccines are reducing severe Covid.

NHS England began collecting more detailed hospital Covid data in June 2021, at the request of Prof Keith Willett, NHS Strategic Incident Director.

The latest statistics, for 27 July 2021, show:

5,021 beds are occupied by patients who tested positive for Covid
3,855 of those patients are being treated primarily for Covid-19
This signifies that 1,166 are being treated primarily for something other than the virus
Some of these 'other' patients may have conditions that have been made worse by Covid or to which Covid has contributed, says NHS England.

A Department of Health and Social Care spokesperson said: "The Health and Social Care Secretary asked for this data to help us better understand the impact of the vaccine programme on stopping people infected with Covid requiring hospital treatment.

"The total number of patients with Covid - whether that is primarily what they are being treated for or not - remains a crucial indicator of pressure on the NHS, since all those patients require careful infection control including quarantining and PPE."

Prof Carl Heneghan, from the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at Oxford University, said the change was long overdue.

"We have been crying out for it for nearly 18 months," Prof Heneghan said.

He said the data suggested, historically, tens of thousands of patients who were counted in hospital data as Covid cases may have been people who were admitted for other health reasons.

"High quality, accurate data is essential for healthcare decision making. Including the NHSE data in the daily updates will facilitate policy informed by the actual number of hospital admissions for Covid."

Prof Sir David Spiegelhalter, from the Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication at the University of Cambridge, said: "The main role for hospitalisation statistics is to indicate the pressure on the NHS.

"Patients with Covid have to be treated in a resource-intensive way, whether Covid was the primary reason for their admission or not, and even if they caught it in hospital.

"Therefore the total number in hospital with Covid seems an appropriate overall summary statistic, although this new breakdown does provide additional information."

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[New NHS data suggests 23% of people with
Covid infections in hospital were admitted for other reasons.]


Yes you would think
but NOW
in a hospital could have safety from Covid-19.


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so a 1/4 got covid IN the hospital;?

the data STINKS
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so a 1/4 got covid IN the hospital;?

the data STINKS
no that's not what it means. It means that they were admitted to hospital for a gall bladder operation or whatever and when they were admitted it was found they also had covid ... but they could easily have been asymptomatic, it wasnt the reason for their admission
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