[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Therese Coffey is one of the absolute worst example of any politician of any party

She's a horrible, ignorant waste of space.

I watched this.
She did indicate our death rate was largely due to people's age and obesity
Then she ignorantly got huffed when pulled up on it.

She terminated the interview, it's a great pity this heartless, rotten politician hasn't had terminated her being a Minister, with her heartless and cruel attitudes to the vulnerable, sick and disabled too.

Absolutely horrible individual.

[Ammi]

The UK no longer has the worst COVID death rate in the world...

1. Portugal 22.53

2. UK 18.31

3. Slovakia 15.54

4. Czech Republic 13.75

5. Eswatini 12.68

6. Slovenia 12.37

7. Liechtenstein 11.24

8. Lithuania 10.71

9. Ireland 10.47

10. Latvia 10.01

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/uk-worst-c...134410395.html

[arista]

Today
592 have Died

22,195 have caught Covid-19

98,531 : Total UK deaths.


Patients in hospital
Latest available
37,899

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
4,076

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

The UK no longer has the worst COVID death rate in the world...

1. Portugal 22.53

2. UK 18.31

3. Slovakia 15.54

4. Czech Republic 13.75

5. Eswatini 12.68

6. Slovenia 12.37

7. Liechtenstein 11.24

8. Lithuania 10.71

9. Ireland 10.47

10. Latvia 10.01

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/uk-worst-c...134410395.html

Not good for our Jess

[arista]

Sorry Joey
it is the Cock
again.


BBC1HD
SkyNewsHD
LBC
Radio 5
Times Radio DAB

[arista]

Live Now

Also Jenny Harris
and Dr. Susan Hopkins.

[arista]

My View :
Something that could bugger every Vaccine Up,

If the UK Variant, South African Variant, Brazil Variant.
Can not be stopped by any current Vaccine.
All Efforts not good enough.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

The UK no longer has the worst COVID death rate in the world...

1. Portugal 22.53

2. UK 18.31

3. Slovakia 15.54

4. Czech Republic 13.75

5. Eswatini 12.68

6. Slovenia 12.37

7. Liechtenstein 11.24

8. Lithuania 10.71

9. Ireland 10.47

10. Latvia 10.01

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/uk-worst-c...134410395.html

is that the Brazilian variant that has driven up Portugal I wonder

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Again as I always say when this comes up - Scottish schools opened several weeks prior to English schools opening, and yet cases in Scotland and England started to increase at almost exactly the same time which serves as fairly convincing (albeit purely observational) evidence that schools were not the turning point, as whatever the major turning point was, it MUST be held in common by both countries.



I'm not even arguing for premature re-opening; it does make sense to take as many precautions as possible, but I also think there's a risk in OVER stating the effect of schools, as it stops people looking elsewhere for the real causes of cases shooting up.

Didn’t the Scottish schools have a staggered return though .. I maybe wrong on that I seem to recall them doing something like that .. anyways that would have an impact on the spread ..

The thing is everyone knows that children spread disease / illness / infections so it’s simply ridiculous to say ( as they did initially) that children weren’t spreading the virus .

As I said in my recent post .. they are currently being crammed into classrooms along with maybe 25 other pupils plus two or three staff members - nobody wears masks in classes only in corridors-they then mix with their mates at break , lunchtime AND mix with other friends in the evenings .




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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...se-prices.html

They should have started with the Covid aspect then thrown the wheelie bin point in as an afterthought ..


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[arista]

17:19
Laura Kuenssberg of the BBC asks: How and when
will lockdown be lifted, and if you can't tell us,
if not, why not?


[Matt Hancock stressed
it is “very important to understand where we are right now”.
He said there are 37,000 people in hospital with
COVID across the UK – almost twice as many
as during the first peak.
There are also more people on ventilators than ever, he said.
He said that “pressure on the NHS remains huge”
and we “have to get the case rate down”
before lockdown is lifted.

Mr Hancock said he “understands the yearning
of people wanting to get out of this”,
but we have to look at the death rates,
hospitalisations, variants,
and the success of vaccines, and decide when it's safe.

So in short, he can't tell us when lockdown will be lifted.]

[arista]

17:25
[ITV's Tom Clarke asks how many cases there have
been of the South African and Brazilian variants in the UK.
He also asks what evidence there
is from the vaccine already rolled out
that it is effective against the Kent variant]

[The health secretary does not give a definitive
answer for the number of cases of these variants
found in the UK, saying he already set this out yesterday.
But he does say they are "very, very small numbers".]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

17:19
Laura Kuenssberg of the BBC asks: How and when
will lockdown be lifted, and if you can't tell us,
if not, why not?


[Matt Hancock stressed
it is “very important to understand where we are right now”.
He said there are 37,000 people in hospital with
COVID across the UK – almost twice as many
as during the first peak.
There are also more people on ventilators than ever, he said.
He said that “pressure on the NHS remains huge”
and we “have to get the case rate down”
before lockdown is lifted.

Mr Hancock said he “understands the yearning
of people wanting to get out of this”,
but we have to look at the death rates,
hospitalisations, variants,
and the success of vaccines, and decide when it's safe.

So in short, he can't tell us when lockdown will be lifted.]

Stupid question tbf, he hasn’t got a crystal ball

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The long-term effect of prolonged school closures can't be underestimated though. I think it makes sense to keep them closed now that vaccination offers hope, and there's a potential "end game" in play where we can wait it out one last time and then deal with the damage.

However, in a scenario where the vaccinations for whatever reason don't fully bring an end to the lockdown situation by the end of the summer, schools need to reopen next August/September and they need to stay open. Whether than means altering breaks for fewer, longer breaks (to act as "circuit breakers") or whatever. Schools can't stay closed for years on end, it simply isn't feasible.

Well next August there may not be many school staff left anyways so it won’t be an issue .. of the staff that are not off sick , or working from home as they’re vulnerable..... I know many , many teachers and teaching assistants who are ready to quit .. probably before Easter as well ..so god knows how many will stick around for the long term .. probably just the ones at the top - the heads , deputy heads , SLTs and the HLTAs who are not on the front line with the kids .

We had two young teaching assistants who didn’t even come back after Christmas- they just left without giving notice .

We are currently under staffed , over worked , being given in some cases completely new roles plus we are all risking our lives and our immediate families lives .

It’s all so disheartening...


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[bitontheslide]

the media just piss me off, it's obvious that we cant open up again until the numbers in hospital are down. They are just stirring it and actually encouraging people to ignore restrictions

[arista]

Utter Bollocks
Health Secretary just said it great they work against the Variants.

The 2 Doctors said they hoped the Vaccine would work.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we have a constantly evolving scenario so it makes it difficult to pin exact causes on covid spread. The new variant started in my area and during the lockdown at the end of last year, our infection rate absolutely soared from being really low. Schools were clearly not helping as they were still open when most of everything else was shut down. My contrived conclusion from that is that the new variant in conjunction with school type mixing caused a massive spike, schools were open and infection rate was low all the way up to November. So, i don't think schools open in themselves is the issue, schools open with new variant seems to be nasty combination.

Last sentence is spot on .

New more contagious, more transmissible, more dangerous variants amongst us yet we have six times more pupils in now than we had last year plus they are in classes of up to 28 when last year ( when it was safer) they were in classes of 5 or 6 !!!

It’s sheer madness


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[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the media just piss me off, it's obvious that we cant open up again until the numbers in hospital are down. They are just stirring it and actually encouraging people to ignore restrictions

This Cock
is saying Nothing New.

[Ammi]

...tbf, the government make it so easy for the media, though...’well, we just have to be extra careful not to pass it on...’....oh, thank you Mr Hancock, we just weren’t sure...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

17:19
Laura Kuenssberg of the BBC asks: How and when
will lockdown be lifted, and if you can't tell us,
if not, why not?


[Matt Hancock stressed
it is “very important to understand where we are right now”.
He said there are 37,000 people in hospital with
COVID across the UK – almost twice as many
as during the first peak.
There are also more people on ventilators than ever, he said.
He said that “pressure on the NHS remains huge”
and we “have to get the case rate down”
before lockdown is lifted.

Mr Hancock said he “understands the yearning
of people wanting to get out of this”,
but we have to look at the death rates,
hospitalisations, variants,
and the success of vaccines, and decide when it's safe.

So in short, he can't tell us when lockdown will be lifted.]

I don’t know why they even bother asking questions like that or when will schools reopen .. Jesus things could get far , far better or even far , far WORSE and in a very short time .. nobody knows


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Stupid question tbf, he hasn’t got a crystal ball

Exactly !!


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[Ammi]

...or want Arista just said.....they really so often make it easy for the media...

[arista]

The Cock Ran Off at 5:42PM

Avoiding a Question about a member of staff
to be appointed last year

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well next August there may not be many school staff left anyways so it won’t be an issue .. of the staff that are not off sick , or working from home as they’re vulnerable..... I know many , many teachers and teaching assistants who are ready to quit .. probably before Easter as well ..so god knows how many will stick around for the long term .. probably just the ones at the top the heads , deputy heads , SLTs and the HLTAs who are not on the front line with the kids .

We had two young teaching assistants who didn’t even come back after Christmas- they just left without giving notice .

We are currently under staffed , over worked , being given in some cases completely new roles plus we are all risking our lives and our immediate families lives .

It’s all so disheartening...


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Qualified teachers are not going to quit a job with a 30k - 40k salary into an uncertain economy (where even replacing with full time minimum wage could be a challenge). It just won't happen in large numbers. There are only 3 possible scenarios for it;

1) They're only a few years off retirement anyway.

2) They have a high household income (a partner who can support them comfortably and securely until times are better).

3) they have a SKY HIGH level of self-belief

4)... They're extremely stupid.


I'm not saying that it's a good thing that people are "trapped" in jobs where they feel unsafe... However, it is a reality. There are no jobs to leave for, even fewer that are paid half as much, fewer still that don't carry similar levels of risk. Realistically, few could do it even if they wanted to, and still make ends meet.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I don’t know why they even bother asking questions like that or when will schools reopen .. Jesus things could get far , far better or even far , far WORSE and in a very short time .. nobody knows


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We had three positive cases last week and they sent home each of the pupils plus the ones sitting either side of them .. . not too long ago when it wasn’t as dangerous or contagious... the whole class of pupils were sent home for 10 to 14 days and the room was deep cleaned .


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