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Tbh I’ve been s worded on Twitter like 3 times and I’m perfectly fine o.O life is bigger than Twitter

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This whole voting conspiracy would never have gained the attention it has if it wasn't for Twitter.

Twitter is such a bad platform for politics. It was originally only ever meant to be a micro-blogging site where people would write a line or two about what they'd been up to.
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we should have a betting thread on how long it will be until Trump is banned on twitter again. There is no way he will be able to contain himself for long

My bet is 11am eastern time
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This whole voting conspiracy would never have gained the attention it has if it wasn't for Twitter.

Twitter is such a bad platform for politics. It was originally only ever meant to be a micro-blogging site where people would write a line or two about what they'd been up to.
You can't blame twitter for peoples suspicions. The empty Joe Biden rallies compared to Trump's heaving rallies, made them suspicious. Hundreds of eye witnesses testimonies of cheating made them suspicious. The fact that at the end of election night Trump was well in front and when America woke up the next day, Biden was in front, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his 2016 votes by over 11 million, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his vote all over the country except for them few key states in question, that made them suspicious. The fact that every election statitic besides the final result says that Trump won, that made them suspicious.

But if it's easier to ignore all that and just say it was Twitters fault, then go ahead.

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You can't blame twitter for peoples suspicions. The empty Joe Biden rallies compared to Trump's heaving rallies, made them suspicious. Hundreds of eye witnesses testimonies of cheating made them suspicious. The fact that at the end of election night Trump was well in front and when America woke up the next day, Biden was in front, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his 2016 votes by over 11 million, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his vote all over the country except for them few key states in question, that made them suspicious. The fact that every election statitic besides the final result says that Trump won, that made them suspicious.

But if it's easier to ignore all that and just say it was Twitters fault, then go ahead.
Can you further explain the bit in bold because I have no idea what you're on about. Everything else you mentioned is not suspicious.
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Can you further explain the bit in bold because I have no idea what you're on about. Everything else you mentioned is not suspicious.
Trump increased his numbers in every single state from his 2016 results, except for the 5 or
6 six that were in question. Certain states are won were it's said that whoever wins that state, it will pretty much tell you who will win the election, Trump won those states.
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Trump had more people at his rallies because his supporters didnt take covid as serious at democrats who would be more inclined to stay at home instead of going to a stupid rally.
Again, democrats were more likely to vote with the mail in ballots over going to vote in person. Trump told his supporters to vote in person so those votes were counted first and THEN the mail in. This is basic stuff Alf.
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Can you further explain the bit in bold because I have no idea what you're on about. Everything else you mentioned is not suspicious.
They are suspicious to some. Maybe not somebody who wanted the Democrats to win, but other observers do think, eye eye, this looks a bit dodgy.

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Trump had more people at his rallies because his supporters didnt take covid as serious at democrats who would be more inclined to stay at home instead of going to a stupid rally.
Again, democrats were more likely to vote with the mail in ballots over going to vlpote in person. Trump told his supporters to vote in person so those votes were counted first and THEN the mail in. This is basic stuff Alf.
Do you have proof of that, did you interview all Democrat voters and ask them how they voted? Just because Trump asked his voters in person, does this mean that is what happened? Have you interviewed every Trump voter to find out if that's true?

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You can't blame twitter for peoples suspicions. The empty Joe Biden rallies compared to Trump's heaving rallies, made them suspicious. Hundreds of eye witnesses testimonies of cheating made them suspicious. The fact that at the end of election night Trump was well in front and when America woke up the next day, Biden was in front, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his 2016 votes by over 11 million, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his vote all over the country except for them few key states in question, that made them suspicious. The fact that every election statitic besides the final result says that Trump won, that made them suspicious.

But if it's easier to ignore all that and just say it was Twitters fault, then go ahead.
I completely agree that blaming twitter is really bizarre, especially considering that FB exists as the platform of choice for the far right. There is also Parler - the far right twitter, but most importantly, what fox news and OANN have been smashing into Americans eyes and ears for years.

Trump didn't win by much in 2016 against what the right keeps calling a historically bad candidate with EMAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You keep repeating "orange man bad," so you know as well as anyone what the majority thinks of him, and that resulted in election defeat.
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Not that bit, that's not suspicious. That every statistic stated trump won. Not one that ';ve looked at declared Trump the winner.
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LDo you have proof of that, did you interview all Democrat voters and ask them how they voted? Just because Trump asked his voters in person, does this mean that is what happened? Have you interviewed every Trump voter to find out if that's true?
Let's just say for a second you're right about the rallies. Biden could turn out 10 or 20, and Trump could turn out 10-20k and it wasn't because of covid, you still understand that you are still able to vote if you don't attend a rally?
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Tbf to Twitter if it wasn't around then Trump would've used places like Fox News to spread the voter fraud conspiracy theory to his voters and we still would've come to a similar outcome sadly.

Twitter is not responsible for Trump or his supporters behaviour imo.
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You can't blame twitter for peoples suspicions. The empty Joe Biden rallies compared to Trump's heaving rallies, made them suspicious.
Because Trump rallies were full of uneducated Covid deniers.

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Nonsense totally debunked in dozens of courts, a lie that took hold... Oh yes... On social media.

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Because of urban areas (heavily democrat traditionally) and postal votes (see above re: uneducated Covid deniers) were counted last. This was even PREDICTED by political commentators before it happened.

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The fact Trump improved his 2016 votes by over 11 million, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his vote all over the country except for them few key states in question, that made them suspicious.
In an election with overall record turnout. Some sort of bizarre comprehension failure that makes people think that Trump getting more votes than the last time when he won must mean he won again, failing to comprehend that - believe it or not - the opposing candidate ALSO got proportionately more votes.

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The fact that every election statitic besides the final result says that Trump won, that made them suspicious.
No they don't, and you're only saying that because you've heard other conspiracy theorists saying it. If you actually HAVE those statistics, by all means, post them.

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Conspiracy theories like all of the above have always existed in politics. Twitter and Facebook have allowed something that used to be vaguely humorous to go mainstream and stop being funny in any way, because massive numbers of people have been sucked into this pantomime causing huge, real problems.

Again, sadly, Alf has started blocking anyone who wants to debunk the things he's saying and is happier existing in an echo chamber where they're just "the facts". Which really says it all.

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Who is responsible for the riots all year long, the burning down of cities, the taking over cities.

What I'm asking is, who radicalised the left?
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