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18-01-2021, 06:51 PM | #26 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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I highly doubt it will still be the case in a months time when lockdown will have brought rates down quite a bit |
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18-01-2021, 06:55 PM | #27 | |||
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5th worst death toll in the world, but whatever makes you feel better about trying to downplay this absolute **** show I guess matt
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18-01-2021, 07:04 PM | #28 | |||
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Charming. There's lot of metrics you could point to to show how badly the pandemic has hit the UK, just saying that this isn't one of them
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18-01-2021, 07:04 PM | #29 | ||
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https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-december-2020 https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...eaName=England Still counting the 28 days, but now count 60 days also. The 60 days thing, quite obviously numbers are up.
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18-01-2021, 07:09 PM | #30 | |||
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That's a Tuesday when that happens
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18-01-2021, 07:13 PM | #31 | |||
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I also think the poor people who die because they couldn't get treatment because of full beds or health risks should also be added. As should the suicides brought on by isolation and a whole plethora of other reasons. |
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18-01-2021, 07:15 PM | #32 | ||
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18-01-2021, 07:38 PM | #33 | |||
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Who, Douglas?
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A lot of people have to work though to keep the economy going, ‘breaks from restrictions’ were in reality people returning to work to prevent future poverty and financial distress among millions
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18-01-2021, 07:41 PM | #34 | |||
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Who, Douglas?
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Also U.K. are over counting our deaths by just including anyone with covid in their system within a month of their time of death, many of these will have been asymptotic and have died entirely of something else, many would have died anyway of other illnesses and they just happened to have covid. Most countries aren’t including these as true cases and so the data is not a true comparison between countries
It’s like saying China has the one of the lowest death rates of covid in the world, they’re just choosing not to record their deaths properly... Last edited by DouglasS; 18-01-2021 at 07:41 PM. |
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18-01-2021, 07:43 PM | #35 | |||
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18-01-2021, 07:46 PM | #36 | ||
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Whether we're first or fifth is irrelevant. The point is that the government are failing.
Crying about the economy is pointless, we're gonna suffer more the longer this is dragged out with half arsed measures by the government. Bleating about people needing to go to work and coming out of lockdown at this point will just ensure another one in a few weeks/months time. |
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18-01-2021, 07:48 PM | #37 | |||
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Who, Douglas?
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If the title post was data used as part of a scientific journal/ assignment or data was presented in its fashion this way it’d get an F. Full of misleading information, incorrect title, redundant data being used as a comparison between countries. Definitely Daily Mail kind of reporting. As a scientist and published author it can be frustrating seeing posts/articles like this full of scaremongering, exaggeration and misinformation
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18-01-2021, 07:51 PM | #38 | ||
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no, Tuesday and Wednesday have always been the highest days when weekend numbers catch up. The numbers collated the previous day are reported, thus Sunday/Monday reports are Saturday/Sunday numbers, and are lower because hospital admin departments typically work Monday to Friday.
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18-01-2021, 07:58 PM | #39 | |||
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You know my methods
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18-01-2021, 08:00 PM | #40 | ||
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Sounds like downplaying to me, you might find 5th worst in the world acceptable, but I do not.
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18-01-2021, 08:08 PM | #41 | |||
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What do other countries do?
The WHO recommendation is to report on death certification, which England will continue to do through the ONS. For daily reported death figures, there is no international consensus on methods. |
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18-01-2021, 08:14 PM | #42 | |||
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19-01-2021, 12:12 AM | #43 | |||
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Congratulations Boris Johnson and the Tory majority
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19-01-2021, 06:05 AM | #44 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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...even though these figures aren’t overall and given at a time when we’re peaking, it’s still horrendous...we’re an island so being more decisive and ‘closing down’ was the key, while Boris dithered../...and decisions made for the economy...as awful as it is that livelihoods have been and will be lost because of this world catastrophe, there is nothing to be had or lost if there isn’t life as the first thing...
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19-01-2021, 08:04 AM | #45 | |||
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we can deal with economic crisis later on once pandemic is over
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19-01-2021, 08:47 AM | #46 | |||
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That's horrible news, although it's not a shock to me sadly.
I understand that Boris has to answer to people within his party so it's not entirely his fault, but the way that him and his party have handled this Pandemic is a disgrace, they prioritised Brexit over the wellbeing of their people. I thought that they were a disgusting party under Cameron, but this is a new low for the Conservatives. The only thing that's genuinely surprised me from that chart is that the USA isn't second.
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19-01-2021, 08:54 AM | #47 | |||
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19-01-2021, 09:00 AM | #48 | |||
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I think it's because of the new variant, which is a lot more contagious.
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19-01-2021, 09:12 AM | #49 | |||
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Jessica Meuse was robbed.
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Not really because as Dezzy's already said on the thread, first or fifth is an atrocious showing for the UK, especially considering the four countries above us have way bigger populations than us so we may as well be number one on the overall death list.
I'm sorry but either way Toy Soldier's argument doesn't really hold up in this scenario.
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19-01-2021, 09:15 AM | #50 | |||
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Italy is doing well at the moment.
I'm confident I can go on holiday this year. But I will definitely have the vaccine. Things will improve here, it will just take time.
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