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Old 13-02-2021, 11:14 AM #26
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Old 13-02-2021, 11:49 AM #27
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You'd have to be a massive xenophobe to spread false hatred about the person voted the greatest Britain.
A person would have to be a massive snowflake to try to denounce facts they don't like as false hatred. Historical figures of power were rarely good people, it is simply a fact. Churchill was a **** that we would have hated and be taught to despise if he was in charge of any other country apart from our own.

The UK is massively ignorant when it comes to it's own history because we only get taught the good parts, for a lot of our history, we weren't the heroes of it, we were the invaders, the conquerors, the people who took and took and left things worse than they were before.

If the true scope of history upsets you so much that you wish to denounce it, stick to storybooks and fairy tales instead.
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No the conclusion
of WW2 in Europe was down to Churchill
America and Russia.
Down to the UK, America & Russia.

You didn't say Churchill, Roosevelt & Stalin so let's not make out that Churchill alone stemmed the German tides. A prime minister does not command the troops, they do not fight on the front line, they don't come up with battle tactics. Let's not make out that the UK's success in WW2 was down to Churchill and not the sacrifices that people made to wrest victory from the Nazi's clutches.

It tires me so much that people equate WW2 = Churchill in order to deify him while downplaying the actual people who won the war.
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Thats crazy
The Nazi's were far worse
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Thats crazy
The Nazi's were far worse
Looking at his other tweets, it seems foolish to believe him without evidence.

The nazis were worse, but to the people the empire conquered and destroyed, it would make little difference. The Empire was an evil force to many in the world, we just don't see it because British people can only handle history when it appeals to their own vanity and arrogance.
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Down to the UK, America & Russia.

You didn't say Churchill, Roosevelt & Stalin so let's not make out that Churchill alone stemmed the German tides. A prime minister does not command the troops, they do not fight on the front line, they don't come up with battle tactics. Let's not make out that the UK's success in WW2 was down to Churchill and not the sacrifices that people made to wrest victory from the Nazi's clutches.

It tires me so much that people equate WW2 = Churchill in order to deify him while downplaying the actual people who won the war.
Yes, your last paragraph I hold to absolutely.

I state again, IF he was really at the time seen as this great leader who, to the delusion of some, singlehandedly won the war for the UK.

How come, in the election he CALLED for and quickly after the war ended, to capitalise on his so called hero worship.
He saw his government crash to just over a third support of 36% crashing from 48% , losing 189 seats to go under 200 seats.
In those votes cast by the voters, including the servicemen and servicewomen of that time.

Perhaps the attempt to hero worship that one man and acclaim him as THE reason we came through the war, really stuck in the throats of those voters and families and all armed forces too, who knew full well it was their efforts with the efforts of other nations who pulled all through the war, not just this one seemingly pompous individual.
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