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Kate! · 21-02-2021, 05:17 PM

What I'm expecting...and thoughts.

Schools back 8th March. Way too early.
All non essential shops open early April. Still a bit too early.
Social places open July. About right.

Vanessa · 21-02-2021, 05:25 PM

He's supposed to tell us when he's easing the lockdown.

joeysteele · 21-02-2021, 05:34 PM

Quite frankly I don't think he should be changing anything until the first week of April.

Anything else he announces will disappoint me.
However I'm sure he will disappoint.

Far too early to alter anything.

I fear he's going to take risks again.

Whatever he starts doing now is in my opinion, as someone who'd rather be sure than unsure.
Will be if it's before the first week of April, will be 5 to 6 weeks too soon.

bitontheslide · 21-02-2021, 05:37 PM

i'm happy for him to relax lock down if the data supports it, and that ultimately is reflected by hospital admissions. If they are down at a manageable level, then open up for sure

Kate! · 21-02-2021, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm happy for him to relax lock down if the data supports it, and that ultimately is reflected by hospital admissions. If they are down at a manageable level, then open up for sure

but they are only at a manageable level because of the current restrictions. It will zoom back up again if they are relaxed. Too soon.

Vanessa · 21-02-2021, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kate!

but they are only at a manageable level because of the current restrictions. It will zoom back up again if they are relaxed. Too soon.

Hopefully they will relax things gradually.
And not too quickly.

Janet Jackson · 21-02-2021, 05:52 PM

Rinse and repeat

AnnieK · 21-02-2021, 05:53 PM

As BOTs said, if the data and science supports it, some loosening would be great if its done gradually and monitored closely.

Vanessa · 21-02-2021, 05:57 PM

I don't think they will reopen shops until April.
But the schools will probably reopen next month.
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Samm · 21-02-2021, 05:58 PM

Not my comments deleted. They should open up a majority after April 15th end of. I know too many young people including myself who are suffering from the lack of social contact.

joeysteele · 21-02-2021, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kate!

but they are only at a manageable level because of the current restrictions. It will zoom back up again if they are relaxed. Too soon.

I agree.

I've heard a lot the last 2 days, of this seems, that seems.
Seems isn't good enough.

We were told in the last 2 lockdowns, by bookends at the press conferences, the data allowed for opening things up gradually again.

They were wrong, and we needed a third.

Data can say whatever you want it to say.

More to the point if they ever were to publish the full actual data to us.
Then perhaps with greater clarity, their word could be trusted this time.

Kate! · 21-02-2021, 06:02 PM

I don't see why the comments got deleted. I didnt report just so you know.

Back on topic....yes Joey. Data can be and is often manipulated to suit purpose.

bitontheslide · 21-02-2021, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kate!

but they are only at a manageable level because of the current restrictions. It will zoom back up again if they are relaxed. Too soon.

the difference is that most of the vulnerable have now been vaccinated, so the rates won't shoot up like they did in january

Kate! · 21-02-2021, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the difference is that most of the vulnerable have now been vaccinated, so the rates won't shoot up like they did in january

I hope you're right I really do. But I have reservations.

joeysteele · 21-02-2021, 06:11 PM

The vulnerable have been vaccinated, yet their letters state even IF they've had BOTH vaccinations they should still shield until 31st March.

Yet they can open all else up.
Where's the sense in rushing again

Or do people like hearing nothing else but we told you so.

It's too early to be relaxing, once that starts the momentum starts to move even faster.

I'd rather not see any more unnecessary deaths of anyone from this, than the thousands there's already been.

Vanessa · 21-02-2021, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

The vulnerable have been vaccinated, yet their letters state even IF they've had BOTH vaccinations they should still shield until 31st March.

Yet they can open all else up.
Where's the sense in rushing again

Or do people like hearing nothing else but we told you so.

It's too early to be relaxing, once that starts the momentum starts to move even faster.

I'd rather not see any more unnecessary deaths of anyone from this, than the thousands there's already been.

I don't think they will rush. Boris said that he will look at the data and then decide.

Kate! · 21-02-2021, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

The vulnerable have been vaccinated, yet their letters state even IF they've had BOTH vaccinations they should still shield until 31st March.

Yet they can open all else up.
Where's the sense in rushing again

Or do people like hearing nothing else but we told you so.

It's too early to be relaxing, once that starts the momentum starts to move even faster.

I'd rather not see any more unnecessary deaths of anyone from this, than the thousands there's already been.

yes Joey. Agree with all this.

Also I do understand the mental health point of view expressed in here. Its a worry yes tbf. It needs to be taken into account yes. Its hard to know whats for the best unless we try it but not rushing it or we'll have to have yet another lockdown.

joeysteele · 21-02-2021, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't think they will rush. Boris said that he will look at the data and then decide.

I'll be straight on here if he was to not rush.
To commend that, despite my personal grievances and fury at him for the last 12 months on this.

However I think he will be opening schools on March 8th.
That's not just children going to school.
It's more people out, more staff in the schools as well as the children..
Other people taking them and collecting them from school.

That one act opens up many more in the community.
It is ridiculous, in my view, to have schools back for only 3 weeks before the Easter break.

If he opens up anything else too before April.
Then as in the past, to me his words again will have been hollow, very sadly.

Kate! · 21-02-2021, 06:27 PM

He will rush. He's learned nothing. The man is an idiot.

Kazanne · 21-02-2021, 06:35 PM

I think he taking advice and will act accordingly , after all he has all the facts ,not us. We need to start opening up but what do I know more than they do ? simple answer is I dont ,none of us do.

Vanessa · 21-02-2021, 06:36 PM

We will find out tomorrow.
I really hope they do things gradually.
We don't want to find ourselves on lockdown again.

joeysteele · 21-02-2021, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

We will find out tomorrow.
I really hope they do things gradually.
We don't want to find ourselves on lockdown again.

He's thrown the right advice out before.
With the bookends standing grim faced as he did, pretending to support him.

He's hardly really listened for a year now.

The time hasn't been enough to judge the vaccines effect, we were told that it wouldn't be certain until after the second vaccinations.

So he can have data for the moment, not the long term..
He's got an anti lockdown group in his own party clamouring for the end to lockdown.
The dangerous idiots they are.

I'd rather stay on the side of fullest of caution.
Until much more is known for certain.