Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 15-03-2021, 12:31 PM   #1
arista
Senior Member
 
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 124,966
Default Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill

A Great Tweet to
the Left Wing Presenter on LBC
Was: Great now we can get to the Cancer Appointment's
at the Hospital"



Government defends plans for noise limit at protests
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56391988

Labour to vote against Priti Patel's crime legislation
'mess', sparking row over women's safety
and the right to protest
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-to...afety-12245852


Now Labour can Vote against this Bill.
The Conservatives have enough to get it through


Yes getting to a Life saving Hospital Appointment
matters the most



Live in Parliament from 3PM.


Life In The City.

Last edited by arista; 16-03-2021 at 07:25 PM.
arista is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 01:33 PM   #2
arista
Senior Member
 
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 124,966
Default

arista is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 01:38 PM   #3
Alf
Let's go Brandon
 
Alf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 25,197


Default

This coming Saturday, World wide protests are happening.

Should be fun.

Check out the Dutch Police, they've gone full Nazi.

Pushing a woman in front of a moving van, setting their attack dogs on citizens and beating the citizens with clubs.
__________________
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVj6cgI9cEEsF4MM7Qd5vOPcBnpwplL  D-r1LRu_BKGD32G2KO0Pw
Alf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 01:41 PM   #4
Nicky91
Musica (Resto Scompare)
 
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 52,496
Blog Entries: 35

Favourites:
Apprentice 2019: Lottie
Apprentice 2018: Sian
BB18: Raph
BB17: Georgina


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf View Post
This coming Saturday, World wide protests are happening.

Should be fun.

Check out the Dutch Police, they've gone full Nazi.

Pushing a woman in front of a moving van, setting their attack dogs on citizens and beating the citizens with clubs.
dutch police are in the right, people have no rights to protest these times
__________________


Robinson2021 faves: Sandra Ysbrandy/Annemiek Koekoek/John de Bever/Jan van Halst

Strictly2021 faves: Rose&Gio/Adam&Katya/John&Johannes
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 01:43 PM   #5
Alf
Let's go Brandon
 
Alf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 25,197


Default

"Dutch Police are in the right"



__________________
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVj6cgI9cEEsF4MM7Qd5vOPcBnpwplL  D-r1LRu_BKGD32G2KO0Pw
Alf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 01:44 PM   #6
Nicky91
Musica (Resto Scompare)
 
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 52,496
Blog Entries: 35

Favourites:
Apprentice 2019: Lottie
Apprentice 2018: Sian
BB18: Raph
BB17: Georgina


Default

there's nothing peaceful about anti-lockdown protests though

lock those idiots up
__________________


Robinson2021 faves: Sandra Ysbrandy/Annemiek Koekoek/John de Bever/Jan van Halst

Strictly2021 faves: Rose&Gio/Adam&Katya/John&Johannes
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 02:05 PM   #7
Alf
Let's go Brandon
 
Alf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 25,197


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
there's nothing peaceful about anti-lockdown protests though

lock those idiots up
They're already
Locked up, that's the reason they're protesting.
__________________
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVj6cgI9cEEsF4MM7Qd5vOPcBnpwplL  D-r1LRu_BKGD32G2KO0Pw
Alf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 02:23 PM   #8
arista
Senior Member
 
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 124,966
Default

arista is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 02:36 PM   #9
Alf
Let's go Brandon
 
Alf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 25,197


Default

They've pushed this bill because they know what's coming this weekend.

It's just more protection for the elite class and more oppression for the citizens.

Wait until they announce that lockdown will be continuing for more than they first thought.
__________________
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVj6cgI9cEEsF4MM7Qd5vOPcBnpwplL  D-r1LRu_BKGD32G2KO0Pw

Last edited by Alf; 15-03-2021 at 02:39 PM.
Alf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 02:42 PM   #10
Toy Soldier
Duke of Sussexy
 
Toy Soldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: ➜
Posts: 27,752
Blog Entries: 1


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf View Post
They've pushed this bill because they know what's coming this weekend.

It's just more protection for the elite class and more oppression for the citizens.

Wait until they announce that lockdown will be continuing for more than they first thought.
Youtube video
Click to view this video on Youtube
__________________
Toy Soldier is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 02:46 PM   #11
Alf
Let's go Brandon
 
Alf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 25,197


Default

#Blueanon
__________________
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVj6cgI9cEEsF4MM7Qd5vOPcBnpwplL  D-r1LRu_BKGD32G2KO0Pw

Last edited by Alf; 15-03-2021 at 02:46 PM.
Alf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 02:48 PM   #12
Nicky91
Musica (Resto Scompare)
 
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 52,496
Blog Entries: 35

Favourites:
Apprentice 2019: Lottie
Apprentice 2018: Sian
BB18: Raph
BB17: Georgina


Default

people just need to obey lockdown rules, are they really that dumb to prefer freedom over other people's health
__________________


Robinson2021 faves: Sandra Ysbrandy/Annemiek Koekoek/John de Bever/Jan van Halst

Strictly2021 faves: Rose&Gio/Adam&Katya/John&Johannes
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 02:53 PM   #13
Alf
Let's go Brandon
 
Alf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 25,197


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
people just need to obey lockdown rules, are they really that dumb to prefer freedom over other people's health
Freedom is way more important than health.

Freedom, if preserved will last for every generation to come, my health doesn't matter as much as that because I'll die eventually anyway.

If I have to suffer a bit of rough flu for a few days to save freedom, then I'll take the flu option everytime.
__________________
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVj6cgI9cEEsF4MM7Qd5vOPcBnpwplL  D-r1LRu_BKGD32G2KO0Pw

Last edited by Alf; 15-03-2021 at 02:54 PM.
Alf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 03:06 PM   #14
Toy Soldier
Duke of Sussexy
 
Toy Soldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: ➜
Posts: 27,752
Blog Entries: 1


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf View Post
Freedom is way more important than health.

Freedom, if preserved will last for every generation to come, my health doesn't matter as much as that because I'll die eventually anyway.
In the rarest of occurrences - I actually totally agree with Alf on this basic principle.

Permanently trading away our freedoms would be an unparalleled disaster and absolutely not even CLOSE to worth it... we should never take them for granted, nor underestimate their importance. And I do think we're on the verge of pushing at the limits of that.

Obviously I don't believe in the "it's all to deliberately reign in our freedoms" conspiracy nonsense, but we should be aware that it might happen as a side effect. We can't have repeated lockdowns forever and while I'm in full support of it being done so far, and continuing until we know if vaccines allow it to end... I don't think it's feasible to have continuing lockdowns of the kind we've had so far if the vaccines haven't done the job. There is a balance at some point of "being alive" and "actually living" to consider.
__________________

Last edited by Toy Soldier; 15-03-2021 at 03:07 PM.
Toy Soldier is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 04:15 PM   #15
Nicky91
Musica (Resto Scompare)
 
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 52,496
Blog Entries: 35

Favourites:
Apprentice 2019: Lottie
Apprentice 2018: Sian
BB18: Raph
BB17: Georgina


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf View Post
Freedom is way more important than health.

Freedom, if preserved will last for every generation to come, my health doesn't matter as much as that because I'll die eventually anyway.

If I have to suffer a bit of rough flu for a few days to save freedom, then I'll take the flu option everytime.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
In the rarest of occurrences - I actually totally agree with Alf on this basic principle.

Permanently trading away our freedoms would be an unparalleled disaster and absolutely not even CLOSE to worth it... we should never take them for granted, nor underestimate their importance. And I do think we're on the verge of pushing at the limits of that.

Obviously I don't believe in the "it's all to deliberately reign in our freedoms" conspiracy nonsense, but we should be aware that it might happen as a side effect. We can't have repeated lockdowns forever and while I'm in full support of it being done so far, and continuing until we know if vaccines allow it to end... I don't think it's feasible to have continuing lockdowns of the kind we've had so far if the vaccines haven't done the job. There is a balance at some point of "being alive" and "actually living" to consider.

freedom is not important at all, end of
__________________


Robinson2021 faves: Sandra Ysbrandy/Annemiek Koekoek/John de Bever/Jan van Halst

Strictly2021 faves: Rose&Gio/Adam&Katya/John&Johannes

Last edited by Nicky91; 15-03-2021 at 04:15 PM.
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 04:33 PM   #16
arista
Senior Member
 
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 124,966
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf View Post
Freedom is way more important than health.

Freedom, if preserved will last for every generation to come, my health doesn't matter as much as that because I'll die eventually anyway.

If I have to suffer a bit of rough flu for a few days to save freedom, then I'll take the flu option everytime.

Look Alf
Life and Death Treatment in Hospital
matters more than a bunch of Freaks with plants
blocking the road.

Also with this New Bill
Rapists will go to prison Longer.
arista is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 06:01 PM   #17
parmnion
I'm a brawbag
 
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: ESSEX via scotland
Posts: 33,764

Favourites:
BB18: Deborah
CBB18: Heavy D
BB17: Hughie
BB4: Cameron


Default

As thousands protest outside Westminster again today.
__________________
‐----------
Goodbye my lover, goodbye my friend.
parmnion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 06:03 PM   #18
parmnion
I'm a brawbag
 
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: ESSEX via scotland
Posts: 33,764

Favourites:
BB18: Deborah
CBB18: Heavy D
BB17: Hughie
BB4: Cameron


Default

Lots of them shouting Tory scum and kill the bill.
__________________
‐----------
Goodbye my lover, goodbye my friend.
parmnion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 06:15 PM   #19
Alf
Let's go Brandon
 
Alf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 25,197


Default

I can sympathise with them on on this. The Bill went downhill after Reg Hollis left



__________________
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVj6cgI9cEEsF4MM7Qd5vOPcBnpwplL  D-r1LRu_BKGD32G2KO0Pw

Last edited by Alf; 15-03-2021 at 06:30 PM.
Alf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 06:24 PM   #20
arista
Senior Member
 
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 124,966
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion View Post
As thousands protest outside Westminster again today.


Yes, Good job many are going home now
But they are blocking Westminster Bridge now (SkyNewsHD Live)


ITV1HD London News
just reported the Vote
on this Bill is Tomorrow.
arista is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 06:40 PM   #21
arista
Senior Member
 
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 124,966
Default

BBC1 London News
have a reporter at New Scotland Yard.

Now they are sitting in the Road, blocking traffic.

The BBC Lady Reporter says they are shouting Abuse
at all the Police standing there at New Scotland Yard.

Last edited by arista; 15-03-2021 at 06:43 PM.
arista is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 06:48 PM   #22
Marsh.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 80,031


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
freedom is not important at all, end of
At all?

Then what, pray tell, is the point of living?
Marsh. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2021, 07:10 PM   #23
arista
Senior Member
 
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 124,966
Default

Now they are outside
10 Downing St. Shouting away.

Ref : Ch4HDnews Live

But the PM is Up North of the UK.
arista is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 16-03-2021, 12:07 AM   #24
arista
Senior Member
 
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 124,966
Default

arista is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 16-03-2021, 06:10 AM   #25
user17866
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 57,452


Default

...is this true, Arista...?..that a sentencing for defacing a statue could be twice that for the rape of someone...?...


user17866 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
bill, courts, crime, police, sentencing, stars, starts, today

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:27 PM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
no new posts