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two man race to be Merkel's successor, both from CDU-CSU
CDU candidate is Armin Laschet (minister president of North Rhine-Westphalia since 2017) ![]() Laschet almost has similar views as Merkel, he is more a favourite according to early polls, he stands for more experimenting amid coronacrisis, adapting to new normal by returning some freedoms to people under a responsible and safe way (also not afraid to close the borders when it becomes a high risk cases wise) CSU candidate is Markus Soder (Minister President of Bavaria since 2018) ![]() someone who also worked under the now EC president Ursula von der leyen he is against expansion of eurozone (more like saying EU already has more than enough nations, so he is pro-EU but he wants more discipline within EU to not add anymore countries now) he is also pro-samesex marriage a hardcore football fan either, was on directors advisory board of FC Nurnberg in 2011 https://www.thelocal.de/20210411/bav...hancellorship/ Last edited by Nicky91; 12-04-2021 at 07:41 AM. |
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Greens have chosen their representative for these elections, Annalena Baerbock https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...llor-candidate |
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The Greens will not win
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Germany's centre-left Social Democrats (SPD) edged ahead in the race towards September elections on Tuesday, beating Angela Merkel's conservatives in a poll for the first time since 2006.
The survey of 2,504 people for the NTV broadcaster had the centre-left party in the lead on 23 percent, with Merkel’s CDU-CSU alliance (known as the Union) trailing behind on 22 percent. The Greens scored 18 percent in the poll, while the pro-business Free Democrats (FDP) scored 12 percent and the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) managed 10 percent. The Left party trailed behind with six percent in the latest poll.
The two parties – the. Union and the SPD – are currently in a governing coalition led by the conservatives, with Merkel due to step aside after elections on September 26th. The CDU-CSU alliance enjoyed a strong lead in the polls going into the summer, but has been on the back foot amid a series of missteps from Armin Laschet, the conservative candidate to succeed Merkel. In July, Laschet was pictured laughing in the background with local officials while Germany’s president gave a speech mourning the victims of deadly floods. Since the disaster, the conservatives have been unable to halt a falling trend in popularity. The Greens, who enjoyed a surge in support earlier in the year, have also failed to regain momentum after their chancellor candidate Annalena Baerbock was embroiled in a plagiarism scandal. Until a few weeks ago, the SPD had been polling so badly that many had written off the possibility that it would be part of the next government. But surveys last week already showed the centre-left party neck-and-neck with the conservatives, who have led Germany in four coalitions since 2005 when Merkel took office. A survey published Friday also showed 41 percent of voters would prefer the SPD candidate Olaf Scholz to be the next chancellor, compared with just 16 percent for Laschet. Scholz is the current Finance Minister and Vice-Chancellor – and may appeal to voters who are searching for a stable Angela Merkel-type figure. Merkel is bowing out of politics at the upcoming election after leading the country for nearly 16 years. https://www.thelocal.de/20210824/ger...election-poll/ update on how things look as of August 24th 2021 |
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am glad AfD are somewhat same lesser popular, phew
SPD's Scholz might be a good choice indeed i like Laschet still as PM of NordRhine Westphalia and Soder as PM of Bavaria, they are good regional leaders overall |
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still SPD's Olaf Scholz in the lead, but now very closely followed by CDU's Laschet
this weekend another big tv debate between the 3 prime candidates (Scholz, Laschet, Baerbock) 50% of who still have to vote still haven't decided who to go for https://www.thelocal.de/20210916/ger...nd-of-merkron/ |
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![]() from left to right, Laschet, Baerbock, Scholz |
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for me personally i hope Scholz will win, seems like the ideal one to go for, same stable leader type as Merkel
the Greens are a big no for me, and CDU are a mess (apparently Laschet had done something ridiculous at time of the floodings, he and his son been joking about it or something like that, and that has already cost him some votes) wish it was CSU and Markus Soder, not CDU's Laschet up against those two, i feel like Soder would've had a better chance |
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Yes Scholz (Centre Left ) SPD
looks the Winner today Ch4HDnews in Germany now SkyNewsHD in Germany has 2 in Front CDU/CSU and SPD Both 25% Far Right only 11% so they are out of this picture. Last edited by arista; 26-09-2021 at 04:31 PM. |
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Coalition appears to be going on.
But takes a long time. So Merkel may have to stay there until they settle this, while they fight over want pledges they can go ahead with. Terrible Result. |
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SkyNewsHD
Live in Germany. Olaf of SPD expects to form a Coalition by Xmas Slow Nation Apathy in Voters |
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we are still waiting for a new government coalition ![]() so far we still have our demissionary government so i cannot criticize germany's politics since my own nation's politics are a huge mess |
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From All Out Politics
SkyNewsHD in Germany They say the Greens and another party are working out who they want to join? To Form the Rainbow Coalition So they are many options |
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Spoiler: Last edited by arista; 27-09-2021 at 03:49 PM. |
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also thankfully that far right AfD are out of that race, since they have too little percentage of votes yes the rainbow coalition might be SDP, CDU-CSU, Greens,Liberals those last two makes sense since they respectively came 3rd and 4th in the election https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...lition-germany the free democrats what those liberals are called (FDP) |
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https://www.thelocal.de/20211202/sch...-december-8th/
Scholz as next german chancellor election ceremony planned for december 8th |
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Olaf Scholz Is now in Charge of Covid Infested Germany Last edited by arista; 08-12-2021 at 10:05 AM. |
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I'm sorry to see the close of Angela Merkel's time at the top of German politics.
I think she's been a really good leader on the National and International stage too. |
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Scholz is a good choice, and i don't think much is going to change there compared to under Merkel's leadership
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Remembering Kerry
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at least the far right AfD is still far far away from chances to getting back into power and their chances to get in parliament are also decreasing year by year
and Scholz knows with who he wanted to form a coalition with, CDU/CSU, Greens and the Free Democratic Party that name for the coalition is either the Jamaica Coalition or the Rainbow Coalition given the colours of the parties involved |
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Merkel was in power way too long, no leader should be in charge for that length of time
We can't possibly know how things will go with the new government. The dynamics have changed and other parties hold more influence. Time will tell |
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or Hungary's turd Orban or that dictator from Turkey, Erdogan Last edited by Nicky91; 09-12-2021 at 08:33 AM. |
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https://www.euractiv.com/section/pol...aine-covid-19/
![]() During the first visit of Dutch PM Mark Rutte to Berlin to meet with Chancellor Olaf Scholz, the two affirmed their agreement on issues like Ukraine, the fight against COVID-19, and economic transformation, but differed on nuclear energy. “We have all made it clear that there would be serious consequences if there were military aggression” against Ukraine, explained Scholz at a press conference following his meeting with Rutte, but noted that dialogue via NATO, the Organisation on Security and Co-Operation in Europe and Normandy was key. “It is difficult, everyone can see that, but it is also equally necessary,” he added. The two also broached common ground on the issue of the European economic recovery following the downturn caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. Scholz added “what we think is key, is the successful ecological transformation of our economies”. “On climate change, we will also give the necessary support for the ambitious plans of the Commission,” he said, alluding to the EU legislative proposals tabled in July and December 2021, the Fit-for-55 package. However, as the green finance row in Brussels over the role of nuclear and fossil gas continues, the stark differences in the German and Dutch approaches are apparent. While the Dutch government aims to build another two nuclear reactors to decarbonise its electricity mix, Germany shut down half of its last nuclear reactors in December. Rutte’s meeting with Scholz on Thursday could be interpreted as a snub, as the Dutch premier met with North Rhine-Westphalia’s minister-president Hendrik Wüst the day before. Rutte wanting NL to remain close allies with Germany, with their both new governments ![]() |
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