[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You realise, I assume, that 9/11 was far from the start of western involvement in Afghanistan? The Afghan war goes back as far as the late 1970’s, was heavily infused with US/Soviet union tensions throughout the 80’s, and 9/11 itself was a direct consequence of US involvement in the Middle East.

I’m not really taking a moral stance here, the politics is complicated but to frame it as the west saying “enough is enough” and only getting involved post-911 is just not the case, the west was 20+ years balls deep in the situation by 2001.

Well from my understanding the invasion happened after the 9/11 attack in 2001, but I could be wrong.

[arista]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Armoured Cars
Free to you the Taliban
from USA President Biden.

Look at that Thomas

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by arista

Look at that Thomas

Yeah I saw it a couple of days a go. on the news.

They've left a lot of weapons and trucks.

If you haven't seen Kajaki you should watch it. Very powerful and intense film

[arista]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Yeah I saw it a couple of days a go. on the news.

They've left a lot of weapons and trucks.

If you haven't seen Kajaki you should watch it. Very powerful and intense film

Yes, but they were left for the
Afghan troops (Trained by USA)
who have run away like cowards

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, but they were left for the
Afghan troops (Trained by USA)
who have run away like cowards

Well there's not much hope then, is there?

But we will put our troops lives at risk.

[arista]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Well there's not much hope then, is there?

But we will put our troops lives at risk.

Loads died for Nothing.

[arista]

Angela Rayner
Deputy Leader of Labour
just told the PM
the women need protecting?


They may need protecting
but the Taliban who are taking over
demand women to stay at home
no more Education.


The USA left
all others are as well.


Live SkyNewsHD & Parliament Ch.

[arista]

MP's keep asking how will the UK
protect Women and Girls Education.

Johnson has said no more Military
to help.


So all the work done to help Women and Girls
was WASTED

[arista]

UK troops arriving home.

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-ALREADY.html

[Oliver_W]

It's a double-edged sword, innit. I'm not a fan of fighting for lost causes, and the Middle East isn't going to "grow up" any time soon, no matter how much intervention the West attempts. buuuut withdrawing is going to make things worse for the Average Joes over there, with all the insurgents who'll pop right back up when they're given the chance.

[arista]

Last night Gravitas show
on WOIN HD (SkyHD Ch523) 6:30PM

Showed Graphic Content
of Afghan Troops being Executed.
22 surrendered as they run out of bullets
but all were shot dead by the Taliban Troops.
This was on the 16th of June
they warned viewers of Graphic Content.
The Internet has far worse content


a Link
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/13/a...hnk/index.html

[arista]

The Taliban
have now taken control of
of the 3 Main Border Crossings
into Afghanistan which is a clever move
as all traders pay at the border to enter.

The Taliban Leaders will meet with the Government
on Friday.
But will the Government Surrender?


BBC2HD Newsnight report
last night.

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/0...utch-pull-out/

fears grow for afghan interpreters left behind, after dutch pull out


Several dozen interpreters who worked for the Dutch military effort in Afghanistan are still living in danger in their home country, despite government pledges to bring them to safety, Trouw reported on Wednesday.

People who worked as interpreters are regarded as traitors by the Taliban but not all of them were moved to the Netherlands by the time the Dutch pulled out last month, the paper said.

Trouw is in contact with two Afghans who still reside in the country and who worked for the Dutch. One of them worked as an interpreter, translator and liaison officer for the European police training scheme EUPol, the other worked as a security guard for the Dutch and as an interpreter for the Hungarian military.

The man who worked for EUPol is still waiting to be told if he can come to the Netherlands, while the security guard and interpreter has been refused entry, Trouw said. Working as a security guard does not fall under the interpreters’ scheme.

Parliament agreed in 2019 that interpreters who worked for the Dutch army should automatically be given a visa and allowed to apply for asylum once in the Netherlands.

However, the defence ministry told the paper that the majority of interpreters still waiting for a ruling only submitted their applications last month. In addition, more applications are being made all the time, including some by people who never worked for the military, the ministry said.

Families

Trouw says that at least 70 of the 273 interpreters who are officially said to have worked for the ministry are still in Afghanistan along with their families.

Former advocate general Jan Gras, who spent three years working with EUPol in Afghanistan, told Trouw every Afghan who worked for the peace keeping mission is in danger, and that includes police officers as well..

The Dutch claim that they don’t know who worked for them is ‘total nonsense’, he told Trouw.

‘The Netherlands had a major role in the EUPol mission. We were the biggest group and they were proud of it in The Hague. The Afghans who worked for EUPol were employed by the European Union and in Brussels they know who was on the payroll.’

[arista]

[arista]

Afghanistan: Fighting rages as Taliban besiege three key cities


[Taliban fighters have entered parts
of Herat, Lashkar Gah and Kandahar.
They have made rapid gains in rural areas since
it was announced almost all foreign troops would go by September.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58040141

[arista]

Ch4HDnews report
Pakistan Fighters have Joined the Taliban
who now control half the nation.

President Biden said the Taliban can not take the whole nation?

It appears to be a matter of time
before they take Kabul.

One man said his 2 Daughters
were taken to marry the Taliban fighters
or they all Die.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by arista

Ch4HDnews report
Pakistan Fighters have Joined the Taliban
who now control half the nation.

President Biden said the Taliban can not take the whole nation?

It appears to be a matter of time
before they take Kabul.

One man said his 2 DaughtersV
were taken to marry the Taliban fighters
or they all Die.

Thread title need to be updated with the year 11 September 2021

Or is it next year

Spoiler:

Yes the poor can watch channel 4 news

[arista]

WION HD
just reported all TV services Helmand Region halted
as the Taliban now control it.

[arista]

SkyNewsHD just just reported a Massive Bomb
in Kabul near the Governor's home.

[arista]

That Bomb was in a car
in the safe green zone near a minister's home
8 civilians were killed.

It took 5 hours for the security forces to track
them, all Five Taliban terrorists were killed.

Ref: WION HD news

[arista]

From Ch4HDnews

[Taliban assassinate head of Afghan government's
press office in Kabul
as Islamists Terrorists also seize control
of their first regional capital]

He was shot while he was in his car.

Easy Target in his car.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...que-Kabul.html

[arista]

AlJazeeraHD


Has an Exclusive Report
The Press and Camera man were told
to leave the car, then they walked into a city.


Shops now all have Taliban Flags
then they are safe.

Any that do not like the Taliban
have already left.


Reports the Taliban are now taking more zones over.
USA President Biden says Fighter Jets will attack the Taliban?

[arista]

Taliban capture three regional capitals

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58135148


[The Taliban have captured three regional capitals
in Afghanistan as they continue to
make sweeping territorial gains in the country.
They seized control of the key northern
city of Kunduz on Sunday,
as well as Sar-e-Pul and Taloqan.

It means five regional capitals have fallen
to the militants since Friday,
with Kunduz being their most
important gain this year.
The city is well connected to
other areas, including the capital Kabul.]

[arista]

Spoiler:

2 maps, 13 -April -2021

and 32 -July-2021



Shows the massive increase
of land now under the Taliban.