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Old 06-05-2021, 12:01 PM #1
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Default If charles william and William's kids all died before the queen.

Would Andrew become king when the queen died?
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Harry would then be next in line.

If an heir is too young I think they have to appoint a Prince Regent or something like that, which would be another Royal, but I'd have to check.
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no Harry I think.
Not if the queen was still alive, it would go to her 2nd son.
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Isn't Anne older, so would be ahead? Although I'm not sure on the ages thing.

edit: just googled anne, an she's 15th in line, so I was wrong about her being ahead.
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3. Prince George of Cambridge
4. Princess Charlotte of Cambridge
5. Prince Louis of Cambridge
6. The Duke of Sussex
7. Master Archie Mountbatten-Windsor
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But that's just the natural selection thing with no twists and turns..it changes if some people die and the queen is still alive afterwards.

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Anne is older, but it has nothing to do with that line. Charles entire tree under him would need to be wiped out else one of Charles direct descendants would be crowned.

Anne, Princess Royal is the Queen's second child and only daughter. When she was born she was third in line to the throne, but is now 15th. She was given the title Princess Royal in June 1987.
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Its complicated and im sure if if all of Wills kids died with him it would go straight to the Queens next oldest son which is Andrew and not Harry because as soon as kids are born he loses his chance of becoming king as it doesn't get passed on to the Uncle but the Queens next oldest male child
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…well there are discussions about tapering down the royal institution atm, it’s been reported so maybe we wouldn’t have a sovereign…
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Not if the queen was still alive, it would go to her 2nd son.
No, if for instance Charles died before the Queen, William would become King.

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Isn't Anne older, so would be ahead? Although I'm not sure on the ages thing.

edit: just googled anne, an she's 15th in line, so I was wrong about her being ahead.
It used to be the oldest male heir took precedence, and that still applies to Anne. They changed it quite recently though so that male heirs aren't ahead.
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Anne is older, but it has nothing to do with that line. Charles entire tree under him would need to be wiped out else one of Charles direct descendants would be crowned.

Anne, Princess Royal is the Queen's second child and only daughter. When she was born she was third in line to the throne, but is now 15th. She was given the title Princess Royal in June 1987.
Because she was born before the 2011 reform all her brothers would jump ahead of her but any daughter born after 2011 would automatically be ahead of her younger brother
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No, if for instance Charles died before the Queen, William would become King.



It used to be the oldest male heir took precedence, and that still applies to Anne. They changed it quite recently though so that male heirs aren't ahead.
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Also if Will was king and died before his kids were of a mature age to reign then Andrew would become stand in king
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The war of the roses that led to Henry the 8ths father becoming king was probably the most complex example of how the family line can be affected if one or all are wiped out. That was a truly ****ed up time
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Also wirh Harry relinquishing all Royal roles i dont think there would ever be a position he could take over because he has exiled himself from the Royal family
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Also if Will was king and died before his kids were of a mature age to reign then Andrew would become stand in king
According to this it would be Harry but he would have to move back to the UK.

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False, that would be Harry
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There is no way Andrew or Harry would get the role of regent, both have stepped away from royal duties so it would be Beatrice, which i would be quite happy with
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Good to see Louis get the Europa spot
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The war of the roses that led to Henry the 8ths father becoming king was probably the most complex example of how the family line can be affected if one or all are wiped out. That was a truly ****ed up time
Does anyone remember this film?

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tbh i think (hope) it would be curtains for the royal family if all that happened...
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Also wirh Harry relinquishing all Royal roles i dont think there would ever be a position he could take over because he has exiled himself from the Royal family

Thats what I was wondering....
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