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Old 04-07-2021, 01:31 AM #76
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The SNP leader got angry
when Martin told her
she would need a 60% lead
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Not the Clip with Martin talking to her

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I don't think now is the time in all honesty. I mean - first and foremost I think "the time" was 2014 but we didn't get past the post... But putting that out of the equation... There's just too much uncertainty with Covid to be going down this route in the next few years.

I largely agree that she just has to make "independence noises" because it's such a big part of the platform the SNP campaign on... And their voters aren't Tory voters so they can't run an election campaign and then immediately disregard the cornerstones as soon as they get into power and expect no one to notice or care.
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Yes TS
Covid-19, is not gone yet.


I agree with you.
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Is she having a dig at boris and his immigration policies yet?
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Then pandemics don't have to stop anything.

The SNP leader
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Scotland don't have nearly the same revenue from oil and gas that they had at the time of the last ref, so their means of financing are further reduced. They could of course still go independent, but it wouldn't be a particularly smart move from an economic perspective.
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Scotland don't have nearly the same revenue from oil and gas that they had at the time of the last ref, so their means of financing are further reduced. They could of course still go independent, but it wouldn't be a particularly smart move from an economic perspective.


Very Good Point
the SNP leader
has to explain how she can
sort out Funding her nation, alone?
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How could the revenue from oil and gas have gone down?...They are at an all time high from everywhere else why would Scotland be different?
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the supply coming from the north sea now is much less than a decade ago, so it's less revenue. The scottish government also have a green policy so its very difficult for oil companies to bring new fields online
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the supply coming from the north sea now is much less than a decade ago, so it's less revenue. The scottish government also have a green policy so its very difficult for oil companies to bring new fields online

Yes thats true
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I cant see there being much of an appetite for a ref until covid is long gone
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Covid is gone, time for scotland to go, we cant keep looking after yous
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the supply coming from the north sea now is much less than a decade ago, so it's less revenue.
Not according to the Tories a couple of weeks ago

(In all seriousness, it's likely that there are still quite large reserves still to be tapped)

However...

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The scottish government also have a green policy so its very difficult for oil companies to bring new fields online
This is indeed a sticking point. Difficult to run an indy campaign on oil wealth and commit to "going green to save the planet" at the same time.
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My current answer by the way is that I'm no longer sure. The current global political landscape is ... a bit all over the place at the moment. In all honesty I'm not convinced any of it is going to be particularly relevant in 50 years time.

Indy would have been right for Scotland, 30 years ago. We'd be sat on an oil fund that would exceed Norway's and in a great position to tackle the 21st century. But now... I dunno. The window of opportunity may have long passed.

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There are other energy avenues that Scotland could utilise. They have islands first wind, water or solar?
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There are other energy avenues that Scotland could utilise. They have islands first wind, water or solar?
Unreliable energy is not a bankable future
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Well we invested in North Sea gas and that's only lasted what, 60yrs?.. so if the wind and the waves keep moving for that long where's the harm?
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Was Debated on BBC2HD Politics Live
with an SNP and Scottish Labour Leader.

2023 the SNP
Demand the 2nd Referendum


Johnson PM
still says NO

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