[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

https://www.dci-palestine.org/palest..._human_shields

don't believe that, probably paid by some of netanyahu's military commanders


same as i don't believe netanyahu is really that popular he wins those elections over and over again

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Having been to Israel, including Jerusalem as well as the West Bank, I feel I know this situation better than people who haven't.

…we had a member…(…I say ‘had’ only because he hasn’t posted since 2018…)…who has lived the situation in Israel his whole life…when he posted regarding it…?…even though it could be said that he would have a ‘bias’ view in favour of his homeland in Israel…?…his words were always that it was complicated and layered with no clear ‘wrong or right’….that’s also similar to most things I’ve read of any more depth knowledge on the situation than I have…it seems like a very fair and reasoned opinion as well…

[arista]

Now it is

5 Israelis have Died in total, so far.

And around 40 Palestinians have been killed.

[Ammi]

…something that I read when reading some discussions regarding the subject which seemed to be agreed by all taking part…


‘If you study the conflict for 1 hour the Israeli's are clearly right. If you study the conflict for a dozen hours the Palestinians are clearly right. If you study it any longer, you no longer know who is right.’

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by arista

Now it is

5 Israelis have Died in total, so far.

Wow this is really getting horrendous. More needs to be done.

[LeatherTrumpet]

JOB is debating this now on LBC

https://www.lbc.co.uk/

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

JOB is debating this now on LBC

https://www.lbc.co.uk/

That Left Winger
is upsetting all the callers.


Hamas is the problem.

[parmnion]

I think usersince has just called

[LeatherTrumpet]

typcal job

the guy said i lived there for 20 years so maybe i know a bit more about it than you

JOB cuts him off and then has the cheek to say "just becuase you lived there 20 years does not make you an expert5 and know more about it than anyone else|"

NO James he specifically said YOU

typical tactic by JOB - reframe the narrative cut the caller off and then rant and rant about the new JOB take on what was said

[arista]

The Israel Ambassador
is Live on SkyNewsHD All Out Politics

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

typcal job

the guy said i lived there for 20 years so maybe i know a bit more about it than you

JOB cuts him off and then has the cheek to say "just becuase you lived there 20 years does not make you an expert5 and know more about it than anyone else|"

NO James he specifically said YOU

typical tactic by JOB - reframe the narrative cut the caller off and then rant and rant about the new JOB take on what was said

i've heard of a jobby, but who is the JOB you are referring to

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i've heard of a jobby, but who is the JOB you are referring to

Just keep thinking jobby, cause that's what he is...one big jobby.

The most annoying man on radio...james o brian.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i've heard of a jobby, but who is the JOB you are referring to

The Left Winger James

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i've heard of a jobby, but who is the JOB you are referring to

[LeatherTrumpet]

Corbyn was at a mob gathering of Pro Palestine supporters yesterday....

[arista]

Yes, Typical of Independent MP Corbyn.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Bitter internal squabbles are nothing new in Labour – nor is obsessing about
the Middle East. But the average voter in Hartlepool might have been
somewhat bemused that Starmer this week issued a one-sided denunciation
of Israel, amid the worrying escalation of violence in the region. “Israel must
respect international law,” he tweeted on Monday evening. “They must take
steps, immediately, to work with Palestinian leaders to de-escalate tensions”.


This curiously partisan analysis points the blame squarely at Israel. It implies
that Palestinian leaders are waiting patiently by the phone, ready to de-
escalate at the first hint of dove-like overture from the Israelis – rather than
participating enthusiastically in this conflict, with their own motives for
stirring violence at an already tense time. And which leaders? His
predecessor’s “friends in Hamas”, the ones presently firing hundreds of
rockets into Israel, often from civilian areas? Or perhaps Fatah, and President
Abbas, who hope further rioting will provide an excuse to call off an election
they know they would lose.

The situation in Israel is far more complex, and contested, than the Leader of
the Opposition suggests. Yet the simplistic oppressor/victim narrative around
Israel has always appealed to Labour’s factions; uniting Utopian Corbynistas
and the worthy Starmerite soft-Left alike. BBC apparatchiks, with a similar
mindset and attendant blindspots, are equally prone to this framing of
events. After a week which has asked the Labour Party a string of existential
questions, a retreat to this familiar comfort blanket must seem hugely
appealing.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-comfort-zone/

[arista]

Yes you have reported on this Zone
for many years.

Why Tweet this
Are you going to Israel or not
Can your BBC Producer not find out??

[Tom4784]

Amnesty International's brief summarisation of just some of Israel's human rights abuses.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries...n-territories/

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Amnesty International's brief summarisation of just some of Israel's human rights abuses.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries...n-territories/

Will have to cancel my monthly donation to them.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Corbyn was at a mob gathering of Pro Palestine supporters yesterday....

Was any accountability aimed at Palestine, or were they pretending they were innocent in all this?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Will have to cancel my monthly donation to them.

A strong person accepts the truth for what it is, a weak person never will.

[Braden]

This is obviously a complex issue that probably requires more nuance on both sides of the debate, but what grinds my gears is how so many slacktivists on the left decide to make Palestine their priority whenever it becomes part of the mainstream news cycle.

[arista]

Iran has been supplying Hamas
with Hit Tech Rocket bombs
some can defeat the Israel Iron Dome Defence System.

Ref:Foreign Affairs Writer, Tim Marshall
Live on SkyNewsHD.

[arista]

Netanyahu is now only Care Taker Leader.
He is due in Court, soon.


Tim Marshall
also said Watch the Israel Bombs
they are hitting those Hi Tech Iran supplied
rocket bombs.