[Tom4784]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/20/u...6-project.html

Basically a bunch of Right Wing led states are trying to ban the darker parts of US history being taught in school and Texas is one of the biggest ones to attempt it which is bad news considering they drive much of the textbook industry.

A bunch of white snowflakes simply can't handle that the history of their country is one mired in blood and racism and want to rewrite history to shove the uncomfortable parts under the table. Why is the right wing so scared of facts? It's honestly pathetic.

If you censor or ignore the uncomfortable parts of history, you're doomed to repeat it.

[arista]

Typical of that state.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Love the Lone Star State

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

Typical of that state.

Not just that state, there's others that have passed or are in the process of passing such laws.

All of which are typically right wing, no surprise there.

[parmnion]

It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.

If that's how you think, we have to erase all of our own history.

We are meant to learn from our mistakes, not erase them and pretend they didn't happen.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

If that's how you think, we have to erase all of our own history.

We are meant to learn from our mistakes, not erase them and pretend they didn't happen.

We dont need to pretend, we just dont need to teach the future generations.

[parmnion]

Tough ask, with the net, but I can dream.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

We dont need to pretend, we just dont need to teach the future generations.

Why not? We all studied history....our grandparents fought and in some cases died so we have a history to discuss. Our past dictates our present and future.

To know the mistakes makes us sure we don't (hopefully) repeat them

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Why not? We all studied history....our grandparents fought and in some cases died so we have a history to discuss. Our past dictates our present and future.

To know the mistakes makes us sure we don't (hopefully) repeat them

The world is not in a position for it to repeat itself in regards to the white on black slavery story.

It will never happen again. To mention it, and to teach it. Well, I think it will only bring hate, or hate or hate.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.

Best just scrapping history altogether then?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Best just scrapping history altogether then?

Yep

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The world is not in a position for it to repeat itself in regards to the white on black slavery story.

It will never happen again. To mention it, and to teach it. Well, I think it will only bring hate, or hate or hate.

But then why is there still racism? To eradicate it from history will not teach our children to not hate. If there was no prejudice I could possibly see where you're coming from but as there still is, we need to teach kids where it comes from and why it's wrong.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

But then why is there still racism? To eradicate it from history will not teach our children to not hate. If there was no prejudice I could possibly see where you're coming from but as there still is, we need to teach kids where it comes from and why it's wrong.

There's still racism because we still teach history in schools.

We've all seen those pictures of kids of all colours holding hands on billboards.

That's what we need to be teaching, not our history. Our history is all about division and war, and in the main only taken at secondary levels for the school trips. School trips to castles, or Auschwitz..or any other negative devisive memory from our shameful past.

Ban history from school, that's what I think..get a compass and take up geography.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

There's still racism because we still teach history on schools.

We've all seen those pictures of kids of all colours holding hands on billboards.

That's what we need to be teaching, not our history. Our history is all about division and war, and in the main only taken at secondary levels for the school trips. School trips to castles, or Auschwitz..or any other negative devisive memory from our shameful past.

Ban history from school, that's what I think..get a compass and take up geography.

Auschwitz? You want to eradicate what happened there? Pretend that millions of Jews, homosexuals, disabled people weren't murdered by the Germans? Do we pretend apartheid didn't happen in South Africa? What will that help?

You've been championing Israel lately, you think they want the suffering of the Jews erased in WW2? You want all those millions to have died and.now we don't tell the furore generations about their suffering? Its not just black and white history, if you stop teaching kids about the horrors that their ancestors faced to give them the present/future they have

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Auschwitz? You want to eradicate what happened there? Pretend that millions of Jews, homosexuals, disabled people weren't murdered by the Germans? Do we pretend apartheid didn't happen in South Africa? What will that help?



You've been championing Israel lately, you think they want the suffering of the Jews erased in WW2? You want all those millions to have died and.now we don't tell the furore generations about their suffering? Its not just black and white history, if you stop teaching kids about the horrors that their ancestors faced to give them the present/future they have

Only some history should be erased.....

[parmnion]

Kids should, and do, judge people for themselves, without any pre conceived ideas put in their heads.


So yes, we dont need our kids taught about all that horrid nasty stuff.



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[parmnion]

Daft argument annie considering you are probably up for taking down statues.

[Liam-]

Yet those people would have a fit if they were told to stop talking about 9/11

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Daft argument annie considering you are probably up for taking down statues.

I've never once commented on that, but you put words in my mouth if you want.

My son will learn all about this. countries, and the world's history, good and bad, from me if school won't teach it because my grandad was a PoW and so earned me that right....

[Jordan.]

Clearly some people didn't even go to school let alone take history classes. There is zero benefits to be had in not teaching future generations mistakes of the past, unless you are for repeating said mistakes of course.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

We dont need to pretend, we just dont need to teach the future generations.

What a dumb comment.

"Don't need to teach future generations". Yeah, good plan.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

There's still racism because we still teach history in schools.

Nope. No. No. I think maybe you could do with some history classes yourself.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.

But the same crowd that says that are the same people who defend statues of racists as having historical importance. Which is it?

[Tom4784]

The idea that racism exists only because we teach people about the history of racism is the most bat**** ignorant thing I've seen on here in a long while and that's saying something. It's literally taking bigotry and victim blaming the victims of it by saying 'You can't talk about your experiences or your ancestor's struggles because my feelings might get hurt because I don't like to be reminded that my race enslaved yours.'

People who would whitewash history because they don't like the reality of it need to toughen the **** up and accept the facts.