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Old 24-05-2021, 09:01 AM   #1
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A senior SNP official has apologised after telling Europe that Scotland “hates the United Kingdom too” after Britain’s entry flopped at Eurovision.

Rhiannon Spear, a Glasgow councillor and the SNP’s national women’s convener, initially defended the post on her Twitter account, which she wrote after the UK’s entry received “nil points”.

She wrote: "It's ok Europe we hate the United Kingdom too. Love, Scotland."




There have been claims that the UK’s poor Eurovision performance was partly the result of hostility towards the UK on the continent due to Brexit.

Ms Spear later urged those taking offence to “have a word with yourself” and attacked UK Government policies.

She said: "The UK has a billionaire Chancellor who won't give NHS staff a fair pay rise during a global pandemic" and claimed Boris Johnson is "more interested in lining the pockets of his Tory donors than feeding hungry children".



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Old 24-05-2021, 09:04 AM   #2
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it's people like her that give scotland a bad name
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Old 24-05-2021, 09:10 AM   #3
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Old 24-05-2021, 09:13 AM   #4
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…I don’t know her, I’m not up on Scottish politicians but she’s obviously entitled to her opinion is the name of the game as we see it….I’m not sure that not giving the NHS nurses a fair wage rise and being shamed into providing sustenance for children have added much to making the U.K. great again, either…
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Old 24-05-2021, 09:20 AM   #5
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Charming.

It astounds me that people think our poor placing in Eurovision is because of Brexit when we've done really poorly for years. I mean... Israel. They've been in the news a lot in the last few weeks, and incited a LOT of hatred against them. They finished about eight places above us. This is nothing to do with Brexit and as for the politician quoted above, she is a disgrace.

Pull out our money and tell them to do one.

I'm talking about Eurovision but it could equally apply to the SNP.

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Old 24-05-2021, 09:24 AM   #7
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it's people like her that give Scotland a bad name

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Old 24-05-2021, 09:26 AM   #8
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We've been doing badly in Eurovision even before Brexit.

I mean it's obvious there's more than just not liking our entries to the contest.

When even places like Israel, Republic of Ireland and Malta don't even give us a single point.

There's something going badly wrong.

You can regardless of what the song is, near guarantee countries like Cyprus will give Greece 12 or a very high vote or vice versa.

The UK doesn't seem now to have any ' friends' anywhere to even do that once.
Even Australia gave us nothing too.

Plus more politically, the SNP haven't ANY reason whatsoever to be impressed with the UK.
With how the overall UK governments totally disrespects the strong views of the Scottish Nation.

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The ridiculous thing is the countries giving us 0 points have their charts FULL of British music
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Old 24-05-2021, 09:28 AM   #10
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Well the SNP hate or dislike the UK, and they're encouraging Scotland to do the same.

They've really amped up the divisiveness since the Scottish parliament elections.
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Eh, she's allowed to use her platform to say stupid things. Par for the course.
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Old 24-05-2021, 09:30 AM   #12
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i mean, if the song and performance were fantastic, we could rightly say, hmm something not right there .... but the whole performance was complete pish, there isn't a polite way of putting it. Thats why we got zero points
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i mean, if the song and performance were fantastic, we could rightly say, hmm something not right there .... but the whole performance was complete pish, there isn't a polite way of putting it. Thats why we got zero points
And you think we were the worst on the night? Did you see Germany??
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And you think we were the worst on the night? Did you see Germany??
the german entry was quirky, which is why although it was really bad, it still got a couple of points. The uk entry had absolutely no redeeming features at all
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the german entry was quirky, which is why although it was really bad, it still got a couple of points. The uk entry had absolutely no redeeming features at all
We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one Bots. There were plenty of dreadful um-pah Europop entries that should have got nil points. Not saying we should have had loads of points, more that there should have been more countries down the bottom with us. I mean, the winners.... it's like a British act from 40 years ago!
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The ridiculous thing is the countries giving us 0 points have their charts FULL of British music
yes of course, why not

british music is very good


real quality music that is, not some unappealing artists such as Michael Rice, Gemini, James Newman, Electro Velvet, Joe & Jake


what i personally liked from UK at eurovision was Engelbert Humperdinck, i mean ok bad result but it was a decent song by a decent lovely performer, lovely thing to watch all in all

Bonnie Tyler did the best she could too, maybe not a good result but i also enjoyed and still listen to believe in me
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the german entry was quirky, which is why although it was really bad, it still got a couple of points. The uk entry had absolutely no redeeming features at all
I didn't mind the German entry.
It made me smile.

I can see how it got a few points, there's years past it would have done much better.
I mean I heard Lulu with Boom bang a bang from the 60s as our entry once..
Good grief.

I agree ours was drab, his performance forgettable.
The verses sounded flat.
The chorus strong but no real hook to grab you.
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And you think we were the worst on the night? Did you see Germany??
wouldn't have been my choice


i personally hope they bring Unser Lied national selection back for next year

at least in that there were less jokey children's songs as Jendrik's was
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i mean, if the song and performance were fantastic, we could rightly say, hmm something not right there .... but the whole performance was complete pish, there isn't a polite way of putting it. Thats why we got zero points
I always say it about the Irish entry the last few years and similar could apply to the UK I think but why do we and you keep sending stupid pop/dance songs that try to sound like other countries who have been successful? I reckon Ireland should send something completely different to what other people are sending like a more traditional type song, it might not help and it might but it would at least be different and more authentic. Like for the UK, why not send a Welsh song or a more traditional Scottish song
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I always say it about the Irish entry the last few years and similar could apply to the UK I think but why do we and you keep sending stupid pop/dance songs that try to sound like other countries who have been successful? I reckon Ireland should send something completely different to what other people are sending like a more traditional type song, it might not help and it might but it would at least be different and more authentic. Like for the UK, why not send a Welsh song or a more traditional Scottish song
I said it yesterday, I think both countries are not fussed about winning due to the costs of hosting
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Well yeah there is that

The Republic have won it 6 times and the UK 4 so they do know how to put together a winning formula
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Eurovision is a performance contest rather than a song contest.

The songs are never played in the years after, and there is too many of them during the show anyway for the public to pick one. It is the performances people remember.

As to whether countries are being judged by Europe, Germany only got 3 points in total, and Germany, Spain and Netherlands also got nothing in the public vote so by that logic they are hated also.

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…I did agree with Graham Norton that the whole points allocation was odd, though…with the public vote as well….some countries getting hundreds of points and others getting one or two points, just seems quite bizarre…
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