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Old 11-06-2021, 06:21 AM #51
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…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…
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…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…
This for me too
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If being ‘extreme left’ means that I’m fine with people protesting against racism and trying to make actual changes to help fight discrimination, then count me the **** in
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…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…

So what.


This is the Wrong Politics
on a Live UK Football Match



It will be Boooo'd every time.
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If being ‘extreme left’ means that I’m fine with people protesting against racism and trying to make actual changes to help fight discrimination, then count me the **** in

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Old 11-06-2021, 11:20 AM #56
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So what.


This is the Wrong Politics
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It will be Boooo'd every time.
…it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….
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…it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….
I agree with this, there is and has always been a problem with racism in football/soccer and I think it's a nice gesture of solidarity among the players. I don't think any player should be forced into doing it but I don't see a problem with those who want to do it, to continue doing it? I don't see how it warrants boos either
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…it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….
I totally agree.

I support the players doing so myself too.
There clearly us from the booing, still elements of racism that perhaps needs to be stamped out of sport.
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it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….

That does not matter
The Fact they are Doing the USA BLM Political Move
Upsets the UK Fans
can you not understand that???????????????

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…why the lots of question marks, Arista…15 of them, I think…to express your disapproval that I don’t agree with you…yes, I do understand that others are trying to place some type of political meaning on it that isn’t there for those who are expressing it as a simple united gesture ….against racism and supporting equality…

… Wilfried Zaha doesn’t wish to take the knee so instead he ‘stands tall’…it still equates to the same gesture of being united against inequality…booing is booing equality, it’s not booing a gesture…I completely understand…

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No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity
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No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity
+ i don't think UEFA wouldn't mind this at all, given their own #SayNoToRacism motto
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"yes, I do understand that others are trying to place some type of political meaning on it"


BLM USA Politics have no place
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BLM USA Politics have no place
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bang on right Arista and hopefully the cacophony of boos at each match will ram the point home

get up off your knees
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BLM USA Politics have no place
at the match
…and they’re not at the match unless you yourself are personally placing those politics at the match in your own mindset in a way to dismiss a simple equality support/anti racism gesture because enough is enough with this darn equality, let’s limit and restrict it, please…supporting a gesture is not supporting a movement and any and all politics attached or unattached to it…the players understand this and the federation understands this and apparently the government understand this as well as they’ve nodded their support of the gesture today and I would hope that most of the fans support it….so you can repeat to me, Arista…but it won’t change that taking the knee is not political….it’s an equality gesture and those who boo it are booing what it stands for…they’re booing equality and anti racism….
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No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity
Honestly the majority of fans aren't racist at all, and couldn't care less if the players take a knee (we included). We just wanna support our team and hope they do well.
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No they are Booo ing the USA BLM Politics
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Scottish Teams have said they will Stand.

Thats better
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Thats better
they are going to kneel at wembley
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Scottish Teams have said they will Stand.

Thats better
yes

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...ches-1.4589735

they will take the knee when they play the England game in solidarity

I think taking the knee is too mixed up with other issues, and it comes from America. they should come up with their own gesture which might have more impact tbh
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Just get on with the game and leave the silly VS to social media
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Will they Get to Wembley?
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Scotland play England at Wembley next week
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Will they Get to Wembley?
They are in the same group...
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