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Old 17-06-2021, 04:11 PM #51
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LT: Racism should not be taken seriously because one of the black men murdered by a copper for being black was a suspected drug dealer. Because, apparently, if the black person wasn't perfect then racism is ok.

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LT refused to even believe that kneeling on his neck for ages was the reason he died, so this is progress of a sort.
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untrue, i corrected Marsh who claimed the knee was on his windpipe and I am sure would have said lets wait until the autopsy.

i was also correct by questioning that it was racially motivated and it wasnt

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Nope, you spent months parroting that it wasn't murder. And it was. So...
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And after the verdict he said it was a complete stitch up...
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Nope, you spent months parroting that it wasn't murder. And it was. So...
if i recall i said it was a callous accident (and i still think it was) and i would think will be the basis of his appeal as well as "trial by media"
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And after the verdict he said it was a complete stitch up...
trial by media and fear of what would happen if he was not convicted

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if i recall i said it was a callous accident
Callous means a disregard for others, he was a police officer who knew the full consequences of what he was doing and tried to use his position of authority to get away with it.

A callous act, disregarding the consequences for the man of his own actions.

Murder. Just as the courts decided.

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it will be appealed and "Derek Chauvin's attorney says he shouldn't go to prison for George Floyd's murder"

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/n...me/7512199002/
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Total stitch up

As expected
You were horrendous through all of those threads.

I think the video of him killing someone was probably more influential in helping the jury reach a verdict, as was his own police force testifying against him.

And you brought this up, before you go running to the report button to get it deleted.

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So... back to Enid Blyton.

No one seems to have a problem with Walt Disney though. Or Roald Dahl. Two famous anti-Semites. If people are going to be cancelled perhaps the process of choosing could be a little more even-handed.
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So... back to Enid Blyton.

No one seems to have a problem with Walt Disney though. Or Roald Dahl. Two famous anti-Semites. If people are going to be cancelled perhaps the process of choosing could be a little more even-handed.
Aren't they just men of their time, in the same way you said Churchill was?
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…it feels a bit pointless to keep repeating this so I’ll just use the words of someone else from Twitter in response to the DM CANCELLED!!!!!!! headline….


‘Literally the only thing that's changed is English Heritage have put a paragraph about her well-known racism at the bottom of a webpage.’



…there has been no cancelling today ….

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it will be appealed and "Derek Chauvin's attorney says he shouldn't go to prison for George Floyd's murder"

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/n...me/7512199002/
Attorney of prisoner in "defending him" shocker!!!
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So... back to Enid Blyton.

No one seems to have a problem with Walt Disney though. Or Roald Dahl. Two famous anti-Semites. If people are going to be cancelled perhaps the process of choosing could be a little more even-handed.
Whataboutery that has no relevance to what this story actually is.

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…it feels a bit pointless to keep repeating this so I’ll just use the words of someone else from Twitter in response to the DM CANCELLED!!!!!!! headline….


‘Literally the only thing that's changed is English Heritage have put a paragraph about her well-known racism at the bottom of a webpage.’



…there has been no cancelling today ….
Ammi cancels the thread
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…unless the thread gets CANCELLED by the DM or the Sun etc, there will be no outrage culture…them’s the rules….
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…unless the thread gets CANCELLED by the DM or the Sun etc, there will be no outrage culture…them’s the rules….
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Whataboutery that has no relevance to what this story actually is.
A response to a thread about an alleged bigot, siting two other alleged bigots and asking what the difference is. I would say that's more to do with debate than following people around making vacuous, smart-arse comments.

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A response to a thread about an alleged bigot, siting two other alleged bigots and asking what the difference is. I would say that's more to do with debate than following people around making vacuous, smart-arse comments.
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A response to a thread about an alleged bigot, siting two other alleged bigots and asking what the difference is. I would say that's more to do with debate than following people around making vacuous, smart-arse comments.
Still unable to respond without dragging the poster into it. Grow up. It was a valid point about your distraction from the thread topic. Either respond to it, or don't bother with your not so smart-arse, just arse comments. It's really that simple.

Nobody said it was "ok" for Dahl and Disney to be bigots. Do people need to make a list of every example of something when one particular example comes into discussion?

Do we really need to highlight "Oh by the way guys, antisemitism is also bad" when discussing one form of racism or bigotry? That's just childish and you wanting to centre yourself in every discussion of bigotry. It's. Not. All. About. You.

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A response to a thread about an alleged bigot, siting two other alleged bigots and asking what the difference is. I would say that's more to do with debate than following people around making vacuous, smart-arse comments.


You got him there.

Both were very fair and relevant comparisons to this topic. I always enjoy reading your posts and opinions in threads. Ignore the baiting Livia
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Livia is not some authority who cannot have her posts questioned. But, yeah, get personal and then accuse me of baiting.

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…so the blue plaque is being altered in line with what English Heritage had said they would do…?….isn’t that what was always said would be a compromise, to not ‘cancel’ history by removing statues etc but to present the correct historic information…?…I don’t understand why it would be an issue…?…if she was ‘cancelled’ then she was also ‘cancelled’ when it was felt that she wouldn’t be an appropriate person/figurehead to have on a coin a few years ago…or is it because it’s connected to what English Heritage pledged in appropriately amending any information and fully presenting ‘heritage’….

….no one is cancelling her work or that many people have enjoyed her work over time…

…as the one time Children’s Laureate, Michael Rosen once said…’she indeed was some of the negative things that she’s been accused of but at the same time she enabled millions of children to enjoy stories…’….that hasn’t and won’t change, neither will any pleasure she’s created and inspired… so it seems like another manufactured outrage of the day…

Once English heritage starts the Ball rolling
Shops start removing Her Updated Safe Books



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…English Heritage haven’t started any balls rolling, they’re on the catch up with their balls and updating information so that it’s more complete and accurate ….some of her books were removed from some libraries/schools decades ago ….life didn’t begin with the DM and other outrage creating media…a paragraph has been added to a website that changes nothing and makes few people aware of anything that they weren’t aware of anyway regarding some story content…Arista, you’re not aware enough sadly ….
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