[Niamh.]

Not sure he should be letting his dog off the lead unless he's in an enclosed space with no animals if he's doing this, apparently he's killed a sheep too?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...sxNe7s6qVyWHWU

The long-haired funnyman watched on in horror as Bear killed a wallaby near his Henley-on-Thames mansion, but he was praised by one local resident for springing in to action and saving the dying creature's joey

Russell Brand saved a baby wallaby’s life - just moments after his pet dog killed its mother.

The comedian, 46, was walking his German Shepherd, named Bear, near his £4.1 million home in Henley-on-Thames in Oxfordshire.

The town is well known for its population of wild wallabies, which are believed to have originated from a group of cute marsupials who escaped from a private collection twenty years ago.

Dad-of-two Russell, who is a vegan and has not eaten meat since he was 14, is said to have been left very upset by the incident, although he did manage to rescue the vulnerable joey.



A local resident told The Sun that the horrific run-in with the wallaby, and Russell’s life-saving actions, had been the talk of the town.

The source said: “Absolutely no one is *blaming Russell or his dog — it’s just a horrible accident.

“He is a very caring man with animals — he has plenty of pets and they’re all his babies.

“I understand he’s devastated over what happened. It’s really sad.”

It's been reported in the past that Bear once killed a sheep.

[arista]

Yes he needs to pay attention with his dog


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...aby-death.html

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes he needs to pay attention with his dog

He's lucky a farmer hasn't shot him if he's killed a sheep too

[LeatherTrumpet]

sadly that dog has a taste for blood and wont stop

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He's lucky a farmer hasn't shot him if he's killed a sheep too

Yes Shoot the Dog

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Shoot the Dog

I'm not saying he should be shot, I'm saying he's lucky he wasn't, Russell needs to keep him under control better and not leave him run freely anymore, he's too dangerous to other animals by the sound of it. It could go for a smaller dog next time

[bitontheslide]

he really needs to keep control of his dog, it's irresponsible. What if it were a baby

[Cherie]

should be on a lead

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not saying he should be shot, I'm saying he's lucky he wasn't, Russell needs to keep him under control better and not leave him run freely anymore, he's too dangerous to other animals by the sound of it. It could go for a smaller dog next time

Yes but as a Farmer
I would shoot his dog
if it just killed one of my sheep.

[Toy Soldier]

Should have been muzzled on walks after the first kill. I don't agree with "on the lead at all times" - frankly that's cruel and you might as well have it put down - but there's no harm in muzzling a dog if you know there's ANY risk.

[edit] That said, dogs should be on lead if you know there's farm animals around, as even the friendliest of dogs can literally scare a sheep to death (or off a cliff) trying to play with it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Should have been muzzled on walks after the first kill. I don't agreew with "on the lead at all times" - frankly that's cruel and you might as well have it put down - but there's no harm in muzzling a dog if you know there's ANY risk.

Yes.

[Elliot]

He’s so annoying like everyone on every side of every debate doesn’t see it for Russel brand why’s he still annoying us?

[rusticgal]

I dont have a dog...but if you are in open parkland are you not allowed to let it off its leash?
I mean if you release your dog in a field full of sheep and the dog kills a sheep then that is irresponsible. But if its in parkland where dog walkers take their dogs and an escaped Wallaby appears then I cant see how he can be responsible.
Im not a fan...but he was devastated and clearly loves animals.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

he was praised by one local resident for springing in to action and saving the dying creature's joey

Russell Brand saved a baby wallaby’s life - just moments after his pet dog killed its mother.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I dont have a dog...but if you are in open parkland are you not allowed to let it off its leash?
I mean if you release your dog in a field full of sheep and the dog kills a sheep then that is irresponsible. But if its in parkland where dog walkers take their dogs and an escaped Wallaby appears then I cant see how he can be responsible.
Im not a fan...but he was devastated and clearly loves animals.

It wasn't even escaped, they live wild in that area, apparently. Descended from escapees many years ago but the ones there currently will have been "born wild" so would simply be classed as wildlife.

Like I said I don't agree with people who say dogs should never be off-leash. They should be on-leash around livestock, but large dogs need to run and simply can't get the exercise they need walking on a leash at all times, at least not in their "peak years", pups and elderly dogs maybe different.

BUT if a dog has a history of attacking wildlife or of snapping at other dogs - even if it's a rare occurence - IMO they should definitely be muzzled. It's like wearing a seatbelt I guess - you don't EXPECT to crash on every journey but there's zero drawback to having that safety net in place.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It wasn't even escaped, they live wild in that area, apparently. Descended from escapees many years ago but the ones there currently will have been "born wild" so would simply be classed as wildlife.

Like I said I don't agree with people who say dogs should never be off-leash. They should be on-leash around livestock, but large dogs need to run and simply can't get the exercise they need walking on a leash at all times, at least not in their "peak years", pups and elderly dogs maybe different.

BUT if a dog has a history of attacking wildlife or of snapping at other dogs - even if it's a rare occurence - IMO they should definitely be muzzled. It's like wearing a seatbelt I guess - you don't EXPECT to crash on every journey but there's zero drawback to having that safety net in place.

Is there not a law in the UK that requires certain breeds of dogs(German Shepard's being one) to be muzzled when out in public? These Breeds have to be in Ireland

American pit bull terrier
English bull terrier
Staffordshire bull terrier
Bull mastiff
Dobermann pinscher
German shepherd (Alsatian)
Rhodesian ridgeback
Rottweiler
Japanese akita
Japanese tosa
Bandog

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Is there not a law in the UK that requires certain breeds of dogs(German Shepard's being one) to be muzzled when out in public? These Breeds have to be in Ireland

American pit bull terrier
English bull terrier
Staffordshire bull terrier
Bull mastiff
Dobermann pinscher
German shepherd (Alsatian)
Rhodesian ridgeback
Rottweiler
Japanese akita
Japanese tosa
Bandog

I'm on a site now but it's a bit confusing, it says;

"There are no laws in Great Britain that demand a dog to be muzzled in some specified cases, but you should remember that you will take the responsibility if something happens for the fault of your dog."

But then immediately afterwards it says;


"The following dog types have to wear a muzzle and kept on a lead in public, also they are required to be registered and insured, neutered, tattooed and receive microchip implants.

Pit Bull Terrier
Dogo Argentino
Japanese Tosa
Fila Brasileiro"

. I suspect it's supposed to say "except in some specified cases" in the first part, and the second is a list of those.

Either way, it's a much shorter list than Ireland, it seems to just include breeds that were created as fighting dogs, whereas the Irish list includes other hunting/guarding/shepherding breeds.


I have seen a guy around here with muzzled Greyhounds though, which I always wondered about as they're really friendly with mine, but I guess it makes more sense if they're just doing it as a courtesy/precaution rather than for any "historical" reason.

[UserSince2005]

put the dog down and ban russell from owning pets, he is not responsible enough.

[Toy Soldier]

To be fair I have no idea how to mitigate for all circumstances though - mine literally appears not to have an aggressive bone in her body, she doesn't even snap or lash out in pain, the world's biggest sadsack... however we're STILL wrestling with her over-enthusiasm and in her excitement she almost knocked a little old lady to the pavement a few months back . The last thing I need is to go to jail for manslaughter because my dog has accidentally murdered an elderly person whilst trying to lick their face!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm on a site now but it's a bit confusing, it says;

"There are no laws in Great Britain that demand a dog to be muzzled in some specified cases, but you should remember that you will take the responsibility if something happens for the fault of your dog."

But then immediately afterwards it says;


"The following dog types have to wear a muzzle and kept on a lead in public, also they are required to be registered and insured, neutered, tattooed and receive microchip implants.

Pit Bull Terrier
Dogo Argentino
Japanese Tosa
Fila Brasileiro"

. I suspect it's supposed to say "except in some specified cases" in the first part, and the second is a list of those.

Either way, it's a much shorter list than Ireland, it seems to just include breeds that were created as fighting dogs, whereas the Irish list includes other hunting/guarding/shepherding breeds.


I have seen a guy around here with muzzled Greyhounds though, which I always wondered about as they're really friendly with mine, but I guess it makes more sense if they're just doing it as a courtesy/precaution rather than for any "historical" reason.

I'm surprised Huskies aren't on our list though, they're notoriously aggressive towards smaller animals/other dogs. The guy who runs the Kennels/cattery we take our dog and cat to said that it's the only breed he doesn't take as he's had so many issues with them

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm surprised Huskies aren't on our list though, they're notoriously aggressive towards smaller animals/other dogs. The guy who runs the Kennels/cattery we take our dog and cat to said that it's the only breed he doesn't take as he's had so many issues with them

To be fair if I owned a kennels I'd probably ban Huskies just because of the noise they make. They howl constantly and that's the last thing you want around other dogs because if one starts, it's a chain reaction.

[MTVN]

Had no idea we had wallabies in the UK

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Had no idea we had wallabies in the UK

we used to have one

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair I have no idea how to mitigate for all circumstances though - mine literally appears not to have an aggressive bone in her body, she doesn't even snap or lash out in pain, the world's biggest sadsack... however we're STILL wrestling with her over-enthusiasm and in her excitement she almost knocked a little old lady to the pavement a few months back . The last thing I need is to go to jail for manslaughter because my dog has accidentally murdered an elderly person whilst trying to lick their face!

[Marsh.]

I'm more shocked he lives in the UK.

When doing his youtube videos he looks like he's in a retreat in Malibu or something.