[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Had no idea we had wallabies in the UK

Same. Thought it was a pisstake story at first..

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It wasn't even escaped, they live wild in that area, apparently. Descended from escapees many years ago but the ones there currently will have been "born wild" so would simply be classed as wildlife.

Like I said I don't agree with people who say dogs should never be off-leash. They should be on-leash around livestock, but large dogs need to run and simply can't get the exercise they need walking on a leash at all times, at least not in their "peak years", pups and elderly dogs maybe different.

BUT if a dog has a history of attacking wildlife or of snapping at other dogs - even if it's a rare occurence - IMO they should definitely be muzzled. It's like wearing a seatbelt I guess - you don't EXPECT to crash on every journey but there's zero drawback to having that safety net in place.

So I wonder if this area is protected for the wild Wallabys. We live opposite protected land for Badgers and Deers....they should do the same for the Wallabys.
I dont know whether his Dog had history...but it has now...so he needs to muzzle it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

So I wonder if this area is protected for the wild Wallabys. We live opposite protected land for Badgers and Deers....they should do the same for the Wallabys.
I dont know whether his Dog had history...but it has now...so he needs to muzzle it.

he's killed a sheep in the past as well apparently

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

he's killed a sheep in the past as well apparently

Well that sheds a new light on it....I always think an animal gets a lust for blood once it attacks another animal like that.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm on a site now but it's a bit confusing, it says;

"There are no laws in Great Britain that demand a dog to be muzzled in some specified cases, but you should remember that you will take the responsibility if something happens for the fault of your dog."

But then immediately afterwards it says;


"The following dog types have to wear a muzzle and kept on a lead in public, also they are required to be registered and insured, neutered, tattooed and receive microchip implants.

Pit Bull Terrier
Dogo Argentino
Japanese Tosa
Fila Brasileiro"

. I suspect it's supposed to say "except in some specified cases" in the first part, and the second is a list of those.

Either way, it's a much shorter list than Ireland, it seems to just include breeds that were created as fighting dogs, whereas the Irish list includes other hunting/guarding/shepherding breeds.


I have seen a guy around here with muzzled Greyhounds though, which I always wondered about as they're really friendly with mine, but I guess it makes more sense if they're just doing it as a courtesy/precaution rather than for any "historical" reason.

Greyhounds are sight - hunting dawgs aren’t they ?

That’s presumably why they chase that ‘thing’ around the race track .

Apparently if something runs away from them it’s second nature to chase ... hence the muzzle


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I dont have a dog...but if you are in open parkland are you not allowed to let it off its leash?
I mean if you release your dog in a field full of sheep and the dog kills a sheep then that is irresponsible. But if its in parkland where dog walkers take their dogs and an escaped Wallaby appears then I cant see how he can be responsible.
Im not a fan...but he was devastated and clearly loves animals.

It’s down to responsibility surely though ..

You can’t let your dog free to run and kill other dogs or chew on some innocent kid just because it’s a public park ..


Sadly many do of course


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[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

he's killed a sheep in the past as well apparently

If you loved your dog and it had killed a sheep you would keep it on a good lead at all times when out

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It’s down to responsibility surely though ..

You can’t let your dog free to run and kill other dogs or chew on some innocent kid just because it’s a public park ..


Sadly many do of course


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Well it seems a grey area. I just googled it and it says its against the law to let a dog be dangerously out of control in a public place....then it says a dog is considered dangerously out of control if it injures someone So if you have had your dog for 3 years and always taken it over the park for a game of Catch the Ball and you have never had a problem...and then after all that time it randomly attacks someone how can you be responsible for thinking your dog is dangerously out of control until its too late...

Am I missing something???

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you loved your dog and it had killed a sheep you would keep it on a good lead at all times when out

Yeah I agree

[bitontheslide]

my cousins dog killed a chicken on a farm and the farmer shot it there and then. If a dog has history, you are protecting it from harm if you muzzle it or keep it on a lead

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you loved your dog and it had killed a sheep you would keep it on a good lead at all times when out

To be honest though I don't feel like you can keep a dog like a German Shepherd and never let it off-lead... Really you'd have to pack it off to someone with land or at least a very large enclosed garden where it can run around. Keeping a large dog in a house + on lead on walks is honestly quite cruel.

Though I also don't think there's an easy answer or compromise.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be honest though I don't feel like you can keep a dog like a German Shepherd and never let it off-lead... Really you'd have to pack it off to someone with land or at least a very large enclosed garden where it can run around. Keeping a large dog in a house + on lead on walks is honestly quite cruel.

Though I also don't think there's an easy answer or compromise.

I had a Rhodesian ridgeback and if he didn't get at least an hours run twice a day he was like a caged animal in the house. Luckily there was a wood nearby where he could be off the lead and just run.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I had a Rhodesian ridgeback and if he didn't get at least an hours run twice a day he was like a caged animal in the house. Luckily there was a wood nearby where he could be off the lead and just run.

"Wallaby population in Manchester hit a record low, locals perplexed."

[Amy Jade]

Irresponsible dog owner.

If it had killed a sheep before why was the dog off it's lead anyway, what if another dog walker was out and his dog got hold of their pet? If your dog is friendly, fine have it off the lead but if your dog isn't then keep it on at all times .

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Wallaby population in Manchester hit a record low, locals perplexed."

Nah...he couldn't have caught a cold that dog. He was nice but dim....he was a 9stone lap dog really, scared of his own shadow.

[Livia]

I have a German Shepherd and he is called Bear. How mortifying to have anything in common with Russell. Anyhoo.... My dog has been well trained, the trainer also trained us... which was interesting. He's super protective of the children and sleeps between their rooms. He's very obedient and we're kind of devoted to each other. If I was going somewhere where other children are, or dogs, or other animals, he is on the lead. He adores the children and plays with them while I'm around but I don't ever leave him alone with them... and this is a dog who has never ignored a command. I have no idea what Russell Brand's excuse is.

[Dogeatdog]

If his dog has supposedly killed a sheep in the past then I would say it was very irresponsible of Russell to have his dog off the lead in the first place especially with no muzzle on him either, regardless if he’s in an area with no one in sight or a public park.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Dogeatdog

If his dog has supposedly killed a sheep in the past then I would say it was very irresponsible of Russell to have his dog off the lead in the first place especially with no muzzle on him either, regardless if he’s in an area with no one in sight or a public park.

Dogeatwallaby

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Dogeatwallaby

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Dogeatwallaby

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Dogeatdog

If his dog has supposedly killed a sheep in the past then I would say it was very irresponsible of Russell to have his dog off the lead in the first place especially with no muzzle on him either, regardless if he’s in an area with no one in sight or a public park.

I agree.