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Old 21-07-2021, 08:33 AM #1
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Footballer Marcus Rashford has defended his off-field partnerships amid claims he has profited by campaigning.

The Manchester United and England forward tweeted he had heard political magazine The Spectator was due to publish a story about him getting an income from the partnerships.

The 23-year-old has backed child food poverty incentives and raised £20m for groups tackling the issue.

He questioned why footballers "can't just do the right thing" for charity.

The article has not yet been published.

The England player has also forced a series of government U-turns over free school meals during the coronavirus pandemic.

He tweeted a thread on Tuesday saying accusing him of benefitting financially from these charity partnerships was "just a non-starter".

Rashford's Burberry partnership saw the fashion company make a number of donations to youth charities and youth clubs, including London Youth and Norbrook Youth Club in Manchester, which he went to as a child.

Before that he started a petition urging ministers to extend free school meals through half-term and the Christmas holidays, eventually pressuring ministers into providing £170m of extra funding.

Rashford wrote on Tuesday: "Just heard Spectator are planning to run a story on me tomorrow about how I have benefitted commercially in the last 18 months.

"To clarify, I don't need to partner with brands. I partner because I want to progress the work I do off the pitch and most of any fee I would receive contributes to that.

"Last summer, 1.3M children had access to food support, through my relationship with Burberry children have a safe place to be after school where they will be fed, following the November investment vulnerable children have safe places to go this summer holiday, and due to my relationship with Macmillan 80,000 children now have a book to call their own.

"Do I have a larger commercial appeal following the U-turns? I'm sure. But I'm also a Manchester United and England international footballer. Why has there always got to be a motive? Why can't we just do the right thing?

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Can't people keep their noses out? He probably wasn't grubbing as much money from the charities as the crooks who run them, and even if he was, how many advocates work for free?
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Poor Marcus he doesn't deserve this
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Incredible guy.
This is really unnecessary and sickening.
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what i found weird about this story is that he is defending himself before the details in the story have even been published. It's impossible to draw a conclusion until we know the details of that story
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what i found weird about this story is that he is defending himself before the details in the story have even been published. It's impossible to draw a conclusion until we know the details of that story
…he said in his tweets that he’d heard the Spectator were going to be running a story/article about him benefitting commercially so hes spoken first …
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what i found weird about this story is that he is defending himself before the details in the story have even been published. It's impossible to draw a conclusion until we know the details of that story
It's an attempted smear by the spectator. Same magazine that is celebrating the dick measuring space race between Branson and Bezos, trying to pretend it's journalism to look at how much cash Rashford earns, purely because he's critical of politicians willing to starve kids.
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…he said in his tweets that he’d heard the Spectator were going to be running a story/article about him benefitting commercially so hes spoken first …
but benefiting personally can mean anything, it's the detail that matters
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The Spectator is an excellent publication so will be interesting
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Used to be a respected conservative magazine, but has since turned into an attack dog rag for tories.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ire-space-race

Branson vs Bezos: In praise of the billionaire space race
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but benefiting personally can mean anything, it's the detail that matters
….hmmmm, it fairly much reads like a negative thing, I mean that’s how you or I or most people would read it…‘ bots has been benefitting commercially from his charity work which is his motive etc…and not because he has interest in bettering lives…’…?…we would all interpret is as a negative, surely….so what he’s done makes complete sense to speak first….
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Can't believe bots is going round screwing charities

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Sales figures for UK magazines are published today and The Spectator is delighted to
announce the biggest increase in its 192-year history. The bet we made returning the
furlough money last summer has paid off.

When we packed up for lockdown last year, we feared the worst and furloughed staff.
But we found the demand for our journalism had only increased. We were badly hit
(newsagent sales and events especially) but saw we had a way out. In 2019, we sold an average 80,455 copies globally. We set a goal of hitting 100,000 (which would mean
overtaking the weekday sales of two newspapers). We returned the furlough money to
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the magazine is enjoying spectacular success

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…the clue was always in the name …benefitting on the slide…we’re really hopeless at working these things out…

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…isn’t it called ‘calling the magazine out’, bots…to speak first when he was told that the article was going to run to say that his interest is financial benefit…
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…isn’t it called ‘calling the magazine out’, bots…to speak first when he was told that the article was going to run to say that his interest is financial benefit…
Id imagine the magazine informed him as a courtesy they were running the article

he then inadvertently provides them with free advertising
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Id imagine the magazine informed him as a courtesy they were running the article
They'll have contacted him for comment rather than "as a courtesy", that's pretty standard journalism. Whether or not he gave one, who knows.

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That's true, a bit naive to directly signpost all of his fans to the article, but once it's out it's out and it would probably have done the rounds on Social Media anyway.
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Being seen has a charitable person is good for business
Unfortunately in most cases the person or company make more money than the charity and in fact it’s the charity that’s making them money
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And Rashford is a reader of the magazine: "'I actually enjoy reading bits from The Spectator now and again" he said in the DM piece
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…that’s the giving and charitable guy he is that he’ll donate that advertising to them…?…but in all seriousness, it also rallies support for him as well which it seems to be doing so not such a shabby kick of the ball passed them either…
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Marcus Rashford is the UK's largest charitable donor after giving away 125% of his net worth

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How do you give away 125% of anything?

I think Rashford is being singled out and frankly insulted, because he has done a great thing and some people are annoyed about it. I don't know whether anyone ever singled Bob Geldof out because his career benefitted greatly from Live Aid... but that wasn't the reason he did it, I'm sure. Same for Marcus Rashford. If his career benefits because he is a thoroughly decent bloke I don't have a problem with that. We need more people like him. I can only assume if he was a white player this would be playing out quite differently.
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