[ThomasC]

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how beautiful Tom Daley is!!!!

OMG. Dream man

But, yeah, it's a kick in the teeth for the police who are not paid well anyway.

I agree with banding being very difficult to enforce different pay rises within the NHS. The banding system should be scrapped in my opinion.

I had previously been offered a job in the NHS, but it wasn't enough money for what I wanted to do so went elsewhere. Their interviewing is point scored as well so unless you say the exact right words regardless of experience it doesn't really matter. THat's my understanding anyway

I also hate the idea of not being able to do a job because you haven't got a piece of paper when you might have extensive experiencing actually doing it and insight that a lot of people wouldn't have.... but instead you have someone who goes university, gets the job and hasn't a clue. One of the reasons I didn't go University in the end. Wasn't worth it when I weighed everything up, but that's my personal opinion of how I felt wanting to go into a specific field of nursing.

I multi work with lots of professionals and the incompetance is astoundingly shocking. I love my job, but incompetance and laziness are my two biggest annoyances.... along with there just not being enough funding/services which makes my job difficult. Hands tied

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how beautiful Tom Daley is!!!!

OMG. Dream man

But, yeah, it's a kick in the teeth for the police who are not paid well anyway.

I agree with banding being very difficult to enforce different pay rises within the NHS. The banding system should be scrapped in my opinion.

I had previously been offered a job in the NHS, but it wasn't enough money for what I wanted to do so went elsewhere. Their interviewing is point scored as well so unless you say the exact right words regardless of experience it doesn't really matter. THat's my understanding anyway

I also hate the idea of not being able to do a job because you haven't got a piece of paper when you might have extensive experiencing actually doing it and insight that a lot of people wouldn't have.... but instead you have someone who goes university, gets the job and hasn't a clue. One of the reasons I didn't go University in the end. Wasn't worth it when I weighed everything up, but that's my personal opinion of how I felt wanting to go into a specific field of nursing.

I multi work with lots of professionals and the incompetance is astoundingly shocking. I love my job, but incompetance and laziness are my two biggest annoyances.... along with there just not being enough funding/services which makes my job difficult. Hands tied

I hear you!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by michael21

Yes it's call shelding

what about those that didn't need to shield, they had to go to work and have been totally forgotten about

[parmnion]

When you can report a burglary to the police and not see one officer for weeks but walk up to a police station with a mobile phone and you get surrounded by 4 or 5 police officers within minutes, for an hour, you know there something wrong with the prioritising by the police

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how beautiful Tom Daley is!!!!

OMG. Dream man

But, yeah, it's a kick in the teeth for the police who are not paid well anyway.

I agree with banding being very difficult to enforce different pay rises within the NHS. The banding system should be scrapped in my opinion.

I had previously been offered a job in the NHS, but it wasn't enough money for what I wanted to do so went elsewhere. Their interviewing is point scored as well so unless you say the exact right words regardless of experience it doesn't really matter. THat's my understanding anyway

I also hate the idea of not being able to do a job because you haven't got a piece of paper when you might have extensive experiencing actually doing it and insight that a lot of people wouldn't have.... but instead you have someone who goes university, gets the job and hasn't a clue. One of the reasons I didn't go University in the end. Wasn't worth it when I weighed everything up, but that's my personal opinion of how I felt wanting to go into a specific field of nursing.

I multi work with lots of professionals and the incompetance is astoundingly shocking. I love my job, but incompetance and laziness are my two biggest annoyances.... along with there just not being enough funding/services which makes my job difficult. Hands tied

Nursing is a professional registration so it has to have higher education attached; there's very robust information about how this increases patient safety. That said, there is a pretty major problem at the moment, in that we have a major shortage of health professionals (made even worse by Brexit) and - because the entry salary just isn't attractive enough - Universities are having a tough time attracting the best candidates, and so entry requirements are kept low... and "passing" requirements also low (40% ) so basically you have an awful low of mediocre skill/mediocre ability people coming through who inevitably make mediocre or worse professionals.

But they can't raise requirements because we're already in a situation where there are critical staff shortages and not enough in training as it is.

The answer though as always is money. Better funded education with proper living costs covered, and better salaries to make it more attractive as a career choice and thus more competetive.

[arista]

If you are an Online Offender
The prime minster says you will be cleaning the street.
With a Bright vest on.


Do not do the crime

[arista]

Dilyn the Jack Russell is constantly humping
people's legs in Downing Street,
Boris reveals - as he asks police dog handler for
advice on how to contain canine 'romantic urges'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-reveals.html


https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...-legs-12365643

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nursing is a professional registration so it has to have higher education attached; there's very robust information about how this increases patient safety. That said, there is a pretty major problem at the moment, in that we have a major shortage of health professionals (made even worse by Brexit) and - because the entry salary just isn't attractive enough - Universities are having a tough time attracting the best candidates, and so entry requirements are kept low... and "passing" requirements also low (40% ) so basically you have an awful low of mediocre skill/mediocre ability people coming through who inevitably make mediocre or worse professionals.

But they can't raise requirements because we're already in a situation where there are critical staff shortages and not enough in training as it is.

The answer though as always is money. Better funded education with proper living costs covered, and better salaries to make it more attractive as a career choice and thus more competetive.

Yep

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by arista

If you are an Online Offender
The prime minster says you will be cleaning the street.
With a Bright vest on.


Do not do the crime

Can I please request the meetings from the next tibb moderators meeting, under the freedom of information act.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Can I please request the meetings from the next tibb moderators meeting, under the freedom of information act.

No

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

If you are an Online Offender
The prime minster says you will be cleaning the street.
With a Bright vest on.


Do not do the crime

I'm sorry to be a party pooper however I'd guess probably a good number of those made to do this.
Would unfortunately see the bright vest as a badge of honour.

Rather than a punishment.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'm sorry to be a party pooper however I'd guess probably a good number of those made to do this.
Would unfortunately see the bright vest as a badge of honour.

Rather than a punishment.

Community service isnt enjoyable.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Community service isnt enjoyable.

Nobody said it was or should be enjoyable.
Being arrested wouldn't be enjoyable.

It doesn't stop some probably seeing it as a badge of honour to their mates and others.

Don't know where enjoyable was said but it wasn't even in my post at all that word.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But the salary is based on the band... you can't increase the salary of a band 5 front-line nurse without increasing the salary of a band 5 physio. You'd have to separate it into completely new salary scales. I'm not saying that's a bad idea entirely, I don't think the banding system works brilliantly a lot of the time e.g. if Nurses campaign for better Nurse pay... they are in fact asking for changes to the pay bands and so better pay across the entire NHS... many more staff, and thus a much bigger battle... I'm just saying it's not simple at all. Easy enough to selectively give one-off bonuses but to do "selective" permanent pay increases you'd need to do away with the current pay band system, and even if it would be a good idea, it certainly wouldn't be easy or simple.

I worked with the NHS providing admin, clerical and secretarial staff when they went through Agenda for Change bringing in the current bandings and spine points. It was a nightmare....the amount of changes, errors etc they made to try and structure all the grades was amazing and it took ages to implement properly throughout the Trusts. Lots of jobs were downgraded from their previous bandings. It would cause merry hell if they changed it again.

Although, I do like Cherie's plan of paying bonuses to the staff that actual were front facing with patients

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Nobody said it was or should be enjoyable.
Being arrested wouldn't be enjoyable.

It doesn't stop some probably seeing it as a badge of honour to their mates and others.

Don't know where enjoyable was said but it wasn't even in my post at all that word.

You simply wouldnt brag about it if it wasnt enjoyable.

Trolling is probably enjoyable to them, but I doubt they brag to their mates about doing that.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

If you are an Online Offender
The prime minster says you will be cleaning the street.
With a Bright vest on.


Do not do the crime

That's ridiculous. Short of actual threats of violence or peddling non-consenting porn, nothing done on the internet should be considered a "crime".

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

That's ridiculous. Short of actual threats of violence or peddling non-consenting porn, nothing done on the internet should be considered a "crime".

No there is Online
Fools using violence threats
that is now a crime.

[arista]

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I worked with the NHS providing admin, clerical and secretarial staff when they went through Agenda for Change bringing in the current bandings and spine points. It was a nightmare....the amount of changes, errors etc they made to try and structure all the grades was amazing and it took ages to implement properly throughout the Trusts. Lots of jobs were downgraded from their previous bandings. It would cause merry hell if they changed it again.

Although, I do like Cherie's plan of paying bonuses to the staff that actual were front facing with patients

They did pay bonuses... definitely in Scotland anyway, they paid them in April. I'm not sure about UK wide. It was "only" Ł500 though so whilst better than a poke in the eye with a stick... it only works out as Ł40 a month for the year. The pay raise up here was 4% too, which was thought of as generous when England was only giving 1% but seems a little tokenistic now if England is 3% .

[parmnion]

Hopefully it means an end to these ignorant coppers.

https://youtu.be/qs4mcv5BrWI

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hopefully it means an end to these ignorant coppers.

https://youtu.be/qs4mcv5BrWI

He is doing the Same thing that trouble maker
Alf posted


Those Coppers in the Station
were fine.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by arista

He is doing the Same thing that trouble maker
Alf posted


Those Coppers in the Station
were fine.

They were blocking all his attempts at reporting online death threats to him and his family. Mocking him at times.

All because he was filming.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

They were blocking all his attempts at reporting online death threats to him and his family. Mocking him at times.

All because he was filming.

Sure if the Phone post is true?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure if the Phone post is true?

They were blocking all his attempts and mocking him before he showed them the evidence.

So wether it is real or fake does not come into it. their attitude to how they deal with online threats just shows what the public are up against. Or were, before boris latest announcement.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

That's ridiculous. Short of actual threats of violence or peddling non-consenting porn, nothing done on the internet should be considered a "crime".

It isn't ridiculous at all.

So someone could be asking underage children online for pornographic images of themselves...... that's not a crime?

County lines are recruiting online, that shouldn't be a crime?

Children are being recruited to join terrorist organisation through video games/ online websites, that shouldn't be a crime?

I think there are many crimes being comitted online, including hate speech and people should be held accountable. They most likely wouldn't do it in real life so why let it be acceptable/do it online?